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Yes I realise your idea of 'hard science' is 1 + 1 = 2.
Or...maybe you just want to marginalize the importance of mathematical rigor?
Of course, if you are going to use Science to rationalize a homosexual preference....especially to fly in the face of religion...don't you think it's fairly important to have some hard, falsifiable facts?
Otherwise...it's not much different than the institution you hate, is it?
I love all the "straight men do this all the time" comments. no, they don't. this is pretty rare. straight men leave their families all the time, but this dude straight up vanished. it has nothing to do with being gay or straight, but it is certainly a rare thing. what I find annoying about this story, is that they are going to have a special on this story. the man should be arrested for faking his own death. he should also have to pay 16 years of child support, and reimburse with interest the money that was spent searching for him.
The hell they don't!!!!! Are you living in a cave or something? This isn't new, either. Hetero males have been dumping females for a different, younger, or whatever model for centuries, leaving behind their kids, then whining about alimony and child support. It's the main topic of countless classics, novels, movies, etc. etc. and etc.
Come on now. If you're going to lie, at least lie about something people don't know about. One would have to be comatose to be on planet earth and not notice that hetero males have abandoned and still abandon women and their own kids with a frequency that blows the mind.
This is like heterosexual men that leave their wives and kid for a younger looking woman they've got a real hard-on for.
He could gain an erection with his wife and evidently the sensation of her vagina could bring him to orgasm and ejaculation, given he created one or more child with his wife.
I don't think he's evil (I hope not at least), but he didn't make the most holy of choices.
You obviously know nothing about male sexuality, or even sexual orientation. A guy can force himself to have sex with a woman, and not feel any lust. This is what was expected of the gay community due to oppression when forced to adapt and assimilate. Incidentally, there are straight male porn stars who do gay for pay--if a guy can get passed his homophobia, his equipment will work just fine.
A lot of scumbags in this world. This one happens to be gay.
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Originally Posted by Californian34
ooo I saw this last night on 20/20 and I was so mad. I am a big supporter of gay people, but an a**hole is an a**hole whether he sleeps with women or men. I completely agree with his daughter. he is selfish for what he did and to use his orientation as an excuse is pathetic. does he really think he was the first married family man to realize he was gay? most of them did not abandon their children.
You haven't walked in his shoes, and don't understand the magnitude of homophobia (real hatred) in this country, or around the world, particularly 20 years ago. You don't understand the self-hatred that has been foisted upon gays; no positive role models; if any images at all, they were always very negative, or no images at all in the media. Gays in history, who contributed, were made invisible, alluding that gays didn't exist. Only recently has it improved, slightly--but, not without strong criticism from the religious right. The rejection many experience, even today, within their own families is routine. I have a black friend who was struggling with his identity for years, when he came out to his family he was excommunicated, and his own father, who was born in Jamaica, told him to commit suicide. Why not take the time to imagine for a moment, your own father telling you that.
Many straight people do not understand what gays go through. Gays were labelled public enemy number one for years, the very image (the poster child) of what you are not suppose to be, particularly if you are male. Even though gay people didn't do a damn thing to anyone to deserve such horrible treatment. Most of the hate and discrimination was born out of fear of the unknown, and lack of understanding. I remember when the AIDS epidemic hit in the 80's, the gay bashing went up by more than 250% in almost every state, and cops wouldn't do a damn thing about it. Many of you probably think I'm exaggerating, but even when there is no violence against us, and no hateful words attacking us, gays still experience being ostracized; people, particularly straight guys won't be associated with us, because they are often afraid of being labeled themselves, thus being rejected as well. In many instances, gay guys still must be in the closet throughout most of this country, forced to live in shame, because through no fault of their own, they happened to prefer a mate of the same sex, and that is all. Gay kids going through adolescence often can't tell anyone out of fear of what will happen to them; being taunted, picked on, beaten up, rejected and isolated. Look how rigorously so many people are fighting against same sex marriage, as if its going to destroy society. Something as little as being able to marry the one person you love has turned into the biggest struggle imaginable, with intense opposition. Every time there is a post regarding gays on this very site, look how many hateful comments are posted, with no attempt to monitor in the same way a similar post regarding race or ethnicity would be.
I'm not saying what this guy did was right, but when society does not allow you a place at the table, or to treat you with a shred of dignity, and attack you from pillar to post, it's no wonder some people go a little crazy.
You obviously know nothing about male sexuality, or even sexual orientation. A guy can force himself to have sex with a woman, and not feel any lust. This is what was expected of the gay community due to oppression when forced to adapt and assimilate. Incidentally, there are straight male porn stars who do gay for pay--if a guy can get passed his homophobia, his equipment will work just fine.
I'm male. I think I know from experience how a guy gets an erection.
I have no idea what you mean by "not feel any lust."
My point was that a man usually (though involuntary erections happen--I've had plenty) has to be aroused to acquire an erection. Also, one can not ejaculate without having an erection and every time I've ejaculated I've had a climax or orgasm that is.
And I've never insinuated that heterosexual men can't acquire erections with men they are going to have sex with and "bust a nut."
I don't think anyone is born gay or straight. And when I was a young infant I would run around naked in front of my parents after a bath, unaware of the sexual nature of my body being naked, like an innocent Adam and Eve. At some point in my development I became aware of my body as something sexual. From that point on I would be embarrass and ashamed to be seen naked by may parents, not unlike a story of an Adam and Eve hiding after becoming aware and no longer "innocent."
I'm not a pansexual person but I know these people exist and your own proposition of gay-for-pay as well as this married gay man that father children with his wife, evidence human sexuality in terms of "sexual orientation, is not something fixed or immutable from birth.
But yea, it shouldn't have to come to all of this (it always does) but a certain someone, with their slew of canned links on subjective (being generous) studies, love to headbeat the virtues of homosexuality. Lol...they do it in EVERY thread on homosexuality and other freakish lifestyles.
But yea, it shouldn't have to come to all of this (it always does) but a certain someone, with their slew of canned links on subjective (being generous) studies, love to headbeat the virtues of homosexuality. Lol...they do it in EVERY thread on homosexuality and other freakish lifestyles.
All human relationships that are monogamous are "freakish" in the truest sense. Why should we deprive gays of the right to wallow in this type of misery?
All human relationships that are monogamous are "freakish" in the truest sense. Why should we deprive gays of the right to wallow in this type of misery?
I didn't assign anyone an argument. I made my own. I may have to give you the number of a broad on this board to whom I explained what that term means. You clearly haven't the faintest idea what it means.
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I'm male. I think I know from experience how a guy gets an erection. 
