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None of the gay people I know do that either, so where were you getting your information from that backs your claim as to gays doing it? You are the one who brought it up.
Probably something by the aged deregistered ex-psychologist anti-gay crusader Paul Cameron on some website like homobigots4Jesus.org. Sounds exactly like the sort of vilifying propaganda he used to spread and anti-gay religious conservatives love to regurgitate.
I am done discussing the issue with you. I find it amusing you continue to keep trying to persuade me. I've had this sort of discussion with homosexuals before, in person, and it's an exercise in futility. They will use all sorts of innuendo (or, in some cases, outright slander) and hyperbole in an attempt to make their case and we usually end up going in circles.
In most cases, it's a gender identity issue psychologically. That is, a failure to identify with a positive male role model (usually occupied by the father) while growing up.
I know, I know...none of this means anything to you and it's all bullsh*it, right? I know the routine.
LOL!
'Failure to identify with a positive male role model'? The old 'distant father and overbearing mother' myth? You're kidding me. You are about 50 or 60 years out of date. Only conservative religious anti-gay fringe groups like NARTH still push that long discredited unsupported notion from 1950's neo-Freudian psychoanalysts.
I know the routine. You read this nonsense on some religious-based anti-gay website and swallowed it hook line and sinker. Then you regurgitate it mindlessly and wonder why people call it BS. That's because it is. Try finding ANYTHING from a reputable mental health organization that supports that idiocy. Or any published studies or research from the past 50 years. You can't. The best you would be able to come up with is a discredited paper by Irving Beiber from 1963 that NARTH (embarrassingly) still keep trying to roll out to support their long debunked 'reparative drive' silliness.
"Despite almost a century of psychoanalytic and psychological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heterosexual or homosexual orientation. It would appear that sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment."
The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb.
There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation.
I used to know some gay guys years ago and tried to be tolerant of their views. Even so far as going to their district for drinks and such.
You can sit and deny what I'm saying all you want. I don't care, since I know the truth.
I'm calling BS on this.
But I'm still chuckling about the 'positive male role model' silliness that you think is 'truth'.
What 'soft sciences' are you referring to? Old fashioned 1950's style psychoanalysis? I would agree. Neuroscience using fMRI and PET scans? Not so much.
What 'soft sciences' are you referring to? Old fashioned 1950's style psychoanalysis? I would agree. Neuroscience using fMRI and PET scans? Not so much.
Or not as much....
fMRI and PET scans aren't bridging any gap between hard science and soft science. The results are interpreted.
Heterosexuality is socially acceptable and it has not stopped some men from abandoning their wives and children.
This man became President of Brazil and he was raised by a single mother with many children. Their father left their mother and them for another woman--if memory serves me correct.
I think it's also fallacious to believe any man that embraces either his heterosexuality or homosexuality will never lose sexual attraction to his partner/spouse and will never become sexually infatuated with another person. For some this may be the case but I think there are ample numbers of real life cases where this is not the case.
Exactly this is the point I'm making. Their homosexuality is irrelevant. They made a commitment and abandoned it because it became too hard. That's the disgusting part to me.
How did this thread suddenly become so complex? I thought that there might be some conversation regarding the dynamics of this report regarding the missing father...instead we get into all this theoretical nonsense that is coming from both sides.
Let's see: my two best friends, gay. Neighbors, gay. Friends of neighbors, gay. Been to countless gay bars countless times. And yet, I haven't heard any talk of sexual acts like you claim you have. Who am I going to believe, gays that I've been around for years & years or some homophobe on the internet? Tough decision.
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