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Old 07-30-2013, 12:25 PM
 
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Say the national minimum wage goes from $7.25 to $10.00. Imagine someone who's stayed at a job and gotten annual raises to where they're now getting $10/hr. The law passes and they just got their wage reduced to minimum wage. That's a huge insult to that person's self-esteem and likely their motivation.

Minimum wage laws are nothing but feel-good measures that will do absolutely nothing to help the people they intend to help.

They should complain to Congress.
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:26 PM
 
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[url=http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2013/07/29/americas-hourly-wage-battle-heats-up/?source=cnn_bin]Even if prices will be a dollar or two higher for items, it's not a big deal for most middle and higher class people.
Who are you to decide what people can and cannot afford?

Do you even have a clue what the profit margins are for fast food restaurants?
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:28 PM
 
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Say the national minimum wage goes from $7.25 to $10.00. Imagine someone who's stayed at a job and gotten annual raises to where they're now getting $10/hr. The law passes and they just got their wage reduced to minimum wage. That's a huge insult to that person's self-esteem and likely their motivation.

Minimum wage laws are nothing but feel-good measures that will do absolutely nothing to help the people they intend to help.

Maximum unrelated occupancy laws are nothing but feel-good measures that will do nothing to help the people they intend to help.

Oh wait, they're not intended to help burger flippers, they're intended to hurt burger flippers.

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Old 07-30-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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Who are you to decide what people can and cannot afford?

Do you even have a clue what the profit margins are for fast food restaurants?
It's actually surprisingly high, at least for large chains anyway. Pfizer's profit margin is about 20.37% while McD's is 19.71%. Burger King is hovering around 10-11%, YUM brands is just below 10%, Brinker Intl (Chili's) is below 7%. I can understand why Pfizer has a large profit margin, but not McD's.
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:45 PM
 
Location: USA (dying to live in Canada)
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Costco has free wifi?
Some actually do. Why do you need free wifi at a shopping store? Wifi is very cheap anyway.
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Old 07-30-2013, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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Maximum unrelated occupancy laws are nothing but feel-good measures that will do nothing to help the people they intend to help.

Oh wait, they're not intended to help burger flippers, they're intended to hurt burger flippers.

Fail.

Municipalities collect taxes from each PROPERTY, not from each person living at the property. To allow too many people living at one property is to tax the infrastructure/services of that municipality, so limits on the number of people living at one property are created. (Related persons are usually exempt from that maximum, as breaking up a family is generally not something governments should be doing.) Maximum occupancy laws are much more than feel good measures. And they absolutely have a mostly positive impact on the community.

But you know this already, as I have pointed it out to you several times in other threads where you complain about your inability to buy what you want to buy, and insist on blaming others for that.
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Old 07-30-2013, 01:08 PM
 
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If you don't have the money - isn't that the original problem here? - for training, you're not going to become any of the above.
The Money?, you go to any community college at least in FL and TX and if you are really poor you will have a free ride for sure. And if you do not have a free ride, you may request a educational loan. For the mentioned trades, the investment is definitely worth it. Now, please do not waste your loan on some Art History major and then go to complain why you cannot make a living wage. I do not want to bash my fellow history major people but the demand for them is not there to justify a good wage. That's the reality of the marketplace.
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Old 07-30-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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I am a firm believer that people are poor for good reasons. One of them is this stupid fetish with the minimum wage thing. If people can't see the fact that the higher the wage, the less the purchasing power, then they deserve to stay poor.

By the way, why do people have to work for minimum wage? The fact is that they choose to work that job. Go find a job that pays $100K and problem solved without increasing the minimum wage.
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Old 07-30-2013, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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sounds like gestapo!!!
Give me rapists and murderers any day what the hell is this country becoming..


what kind of pay do you get to want to work with rapist and murderers???
Pay is decent. Health care is definitely above average. I'm new at this position so I get the crummy schedule/slashed hours. But it's cool. I like the work and the people.

I grew up in the ghetto so I'm very comfortable around the slugs of society. Kids just drive me up a wall though! Lol.

I know most people would take the kids over convicts but a job is really in the eye of the beholder. Even if minimum wage jobs shot up to what I make I'd stay put....even child care. I'm not saying those jobs are beneath me...it's just the way I'm wired. Grant it I don't have a wife and kids at home so I can be more selective.

Let's say general physicians got paid double what they make now. Even if I had the brains and patience to do it (which I don't) I wouldn't pick that path.

Again...wiring. It's the X factor.
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Old 07-30-2013, 02:10 PM
 
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If minimum wage doubles, so should every other wage out there. Then we are back at square 1 again.
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