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But the working poor will no longer have to forgo health insurance.
So who's going to pay for their healthcare? The government doesn't magically have money, it only redistributes that which it takes from tax paying citizens. So if the "working poor" don't contribute more, yet draw more benefits out of the system, the burden for providing their new healthcare comes from those who are paying and who will be expected to pay more while receiving less.
We spend so much and waste so much because of our multi-payer system, that we would free up an additional $416 billion a year just by moving to single payer. That would cover health insurance for every currently uninsured man, woman and child in the country with enough left over for frozen yogurt.
This is what opponent of UHC keep missing. We are already paying more than we need for universal healthcare. Right now.
Anyone who truly understand how it works will want no part of it. It a terrible system that is hated by anyone who lives where it exists..
Say what?
None of those countries have a majority of citizens smart enough to understand how it works?
Majority of citizens in EVERY country with a Universal system would scream blue murder if it were attempted to be eliminated.
You're talking out your alimentary canal there Donn. And if you simply defaulted back to using that orifice for it's originally intended purpose, instead of trying to communicate through it, you wouldn't be 'full of ****'.
I drive a Mercedes. UHC is like the government saying "Sam, you don't need that fancy car while poor Fred here doesn't have any car and needs to get to work just as much as you do. So what we're going to do is use that money you pay for your car each month and get Fred a Kia, and Sam, you'll be driving a Kia also. There, everybody has transportation and everybody should be happy, right?"
I like my Mercedes, worked hard to get it, and think that Fred can ride a bike if he needs to get to work.
UK total healthcare spending per person - $3480
Public - $2919
Private - $561
Doctors per 10000 - 27.43
Life expectancy - 81.05
Australia total healthcare spending per person - $3441
Public - $2340
Private - $1101
Doctors per 10000 - 29.91
Life expectancy - 81.81
USA total healthcare spending per person - $8362
Public - $4437
Private - $3925
Doctors per 10000 - 24.22
Life expectancy - 78.37
The UK and Australia both have universal healthcare, and still manage to spend less on health than the US does (while both having better outcomes in most cases).
Medicare is the closest thing we have to universal healthcare, except it's limited to those 65 and older.
Back in 2003, Congress decided to enhance Medicare and created Part D, for prescription medications.
Except that the same Congress would not authorize Medicare to negotiate the price of prescription medications as is done in all other nations. This gift to the Big Pharma lobby has and will continue to have a significant impact on the U.S. debt.
requiring people to purchase health insurance has nothing to do with "health" and doesnt give you an improved level of "care"
the law should simply be called "the mandatory health insurance purchase act"
if the reason someone didnt have insurance is because they couldnt afford it, how is requiring you to purchase something you couldnt afford before even a logical idea
that is like oweing a credit card company $1000, you couldnt pay it and it gets charged off and the debt is sold to a bill collector... the bill collector then says "hey, you owe us $1500" so let me get this straight, you couldnt afford the $1000 debt, but now they think you can afford $1500?
also, is your current medical debt cancelled out?
and, if the idea is that "everyone participates" then NOONE no corporations (ie McDonalds or whoever) should get any kind of waiver or exemption
somehow people were/are convinced that their health would improve by an insurance law
look at it like this:
politicians, govt people, the "elite" all currently have cadillac health plans / after ACA they still have the same thing, the best doctors access to treatment etc
joe blow around the corner thats doing bad and is currently on medicaid / after ACA joe is STILL on medicaid (even if they call it something else)... in fact it will be worse for joe because there are more people on medicaid now then before so essentially "the line is longer"
i don't see any benefit... but of course this is just my stupid opinion
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and to add why on earth would a grown 26 year old "kid" need to be on thier parents insurance?
alot of 26 yr old are married and/or have a family and sometimes a mortgage...wtf!
"pre-existing conditions" didnt need an elaborate bill...everyone in the congress agrees on this to my understanding
So who's going to pay for their healthcare? The government doesn't magically have money, it only redistributes that which it takes from tax paying citizens. So if the "working poor" don't contribute more, yet draw more benefits out of the system, the burden for providing their new healthcare comes from those who are paying and who will be expected to pay more while receiving less.
Your government is already paying over $8k of YOUR tax money in health care spending for every man woman and child in the U.S. whereas EVERY single country already having a Universal program is paying thousands less than that to actually cover EVERYONE.
What's wrong with that picture?
More of your tax money is already going to pay for a system that is NOT universal and providing only marginal service. Were you to truly embrace the concept of a universal health care program as is applicable in other countries and REMOVE the exhorbitant admin. costs and helter skelter fee schedules, you'd realize a SAVINGS with every single person covered.
It means that if you find yourself on the planet Vulcan, a death panel will say that you don't deserve health care, and you will be beamed to the Galactic Quadrant to not live evermore(unless you have a pre-existing condition that historically has been "discriminated against" by insurance companies, or are an adult between the ages of 18-26, in which case you can stay on your parent's insurance, thereby ensuring that the "young ones" will never boldly go where no one has gone before).
If one believes in death panels, be aware that insurance companies have been quasi death panels, all along.
Nations with universal healthcare routinely maintain comparative -effectiveness panels to determine the best way to treat routine conditions. Why prescribe a $10 pill when the 10 cent generic has the same outcome? Their outcomes speak for themselves.
In contrast, U.S. Big Pharma has spent serious $ billions to ensure that Congress protects their best interests. It's no surprise that a bought Congress declared an independent MD comprised comparative-effectiveness panel, a death panel.
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