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Old 08-27-2013, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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you mean like how we need to stop increasing the national debt? Like that? cuz that is a tea party mantra.
Not so much a mantra.....more like a cover story and code for "dismantling all the social safety nets in the country."

 
Old 08-27-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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It died when conservatives sold out voters to businesses, and voters cared more about sound bites than performance.
lOL

two words

Dodd Frank....
 
Old 08-27-2013, 12:32 PM
 
Location: None of your business
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It died when conservatives sold out voters to businesses, and voters cared more about sound bites than performance.
Yet "if" you work it is the paycheck from the business you want. One minute liberals whine about businesses then they are whining about businesses not hiring.
 
Old 08-27-2013, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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They dumbed themselves down so liberals could understand them. Huge mistake.
 
Old 08-27-2013, 12:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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"Contemporary conservatism" is neither.

Conservatism hasn't changed. It's still the idea that people have to pull their own weight, help each other, balance their budgets, and not rely on government for the ordinary problems in life.

People have changed, thinking they could get away without it.

You see the result.
People also drifted away from conservatism, when demagogues who wanted to smear it (such as the liberals in this thread), started telling people it was something else, in an attempt to fool them into thinking there was something wrong with conservatism, instead of something wrong with the liberals describing it.

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Old 08-27-2013, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The far right called them RINOs and then began forcing them out or forcing them to pander to the far right just to win elections. Of course the Republicans will blame the liberals and lazy people for destroying their own party.
Anyone who stands left of Attila The Hun's executioner is a liberal to the new conservative, which is rapidly morphing into the New Libertarian.
 
Old 08-27-2013, 12:34 PM
 
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It went the way of intelligent liberalism which was always a misnomer.
 
Old 08-27-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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They dumbed themselves down so liberals could understand them. Huge mistake.
Must be a typing error, I think you meant to say far-right instead of liberals.
 
Old 08-27-2013, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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People also started drifitn away from conservatism, when demagogues who wanted to smear it (such as the liberals in this thread), started telling people it was something else, in an attempt to fool thm into thinking there was something wrong with conservatism, instead of something wrong with the liberals describing it.
If there is something wrong with conservatism then it is the conservatives own fault.
 
Old 08-27-2013, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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At least conservatives don't outsource our presidents.
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