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Old 08-29-2013, 10:51 AM
 
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CFLs are dangerous, and THEY ARE NOT ecologically friendly. When you break a CFL you've effectively turned your home into a biohazard.

I've spent hundreds replacing all my incandescent bulbs with CFLs. Now, I've spent thousands replacing all of my CFLs with high lumen LEDs. This alone has cut my total energy usage down by 30%. We've gone from 1600kwh mo. to under 1000kwh mo, so it has been well worth the investment.

The biggest upside is that my solar system can be half the size I was originally planning. I won't have to replace a bulb for up to 25 years, as well.
I usually only have to replace one, maybe two incandescents a year. I get them for about 20 cents a pop buying in bulk, so the cost of the bulbs in 25 years isn't much at all.

there may be some energy savings, but I never really have a bunch of lights on, only in my work room and that is only on during the evening (my windows provide plenty of light). So the costs aren't justified to move to LED. I will wait until the eco-nazis drive up the cost of energy production (and that is what they are trying to do) until it is efficient or until the prices of LED's drop near what incandescents are.
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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It's funny watching has-been pundits circling the drain of public consciousness (and of course with that goes their income).

Look at meeeeeeeeeeeeee...........<ker flush>
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:02 AM
 
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Oh, for f*ck's sake. Local concentrations are different from total emissions.

If you spill bleach on the kitchen floor, you will temporarily create chlorine concentrations way beyond OSHA PELs in the immediate vicinity. If you break a fluorescent light, you will temporarily establish mercury concentrations way beyond OSHA PELs in the immediate vicinity.

That has nothing to do with total emission of mercury to the environment. Which, and I don't care whether Glenn Beck approves or not, goes down when we burn less coal in our powerplants.

We have had fluorescent lights since when? The 1950s? You guys act as if it's a requirement to bring in a combined EOD/biohazard team every time a fluorescent light strip breaks.
Such childish language, clean it up please, we are adults here, not teenyboppers.

You didn't read my report did you?

What is the PEL for Mercury? Go ahead, go to Osha and read the list of PELs, what is it?

Now, compare that to the levels you just quoted?

Interesting...

As for the fluorescents, they are in self contained units and less likely to be broken in everyday function. Not only that, many homes do not have them (though some are becoming more common). Another interesting fact is that their ballasts are completely encapsulated.

Now contrast that with light bulbs that are next to the beds, in many appliances that have a high susceptibility to interaction which can lead to breakage. Combine that with exposure that is exponentially higher than the PEL (seriously, you guys whine about PEL then turn around and push the stupid arguments about secondhand smoke, absurd double standards) and well... one would have to be a complete moron to think there is not an issue here. Well, maybe not a moron, but a serious crush on their political agenda.
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