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Old 09-05-2013, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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because teachers are the ones who consistently complain about not making enough. they have zero clue how good they have it. they also have zero clue about how much they would hate the real job world.
Still sounds like a bunch of sour grapes to me.

 
Old 09-05-2013, 03:03 PM
 
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Co-worker's sister just had to quit teaching after 8 years because she was only making 35,000 a year.

That's far less than what I make, and I don't have half the education nor do I have a job that is nearly as important.
you must live in a terrible market for teaching. you'd be shocked at what I was able to do with $35,000 a year.
 
Old 09-05-2013, 03:04 PM
 
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LG you need to get a clue, and stop being do damn jealous of other people. teachers EARN the money they make, they also earn the pensions and other benefits they get. and yet they are often lambasted for being ineffective, lazy, overpaid, etc. what teachers really dont get is RESPECT. since you can obviously type, read, and put together a reasonable sentence structure, and you are probably pretty at your job, you can thank a teacher for that. otherwise you would be an uneducated idiot.
everything I know has been self taught. had a couple of good teachers in college, but that's about it. I am not jealous, I am content.
 
Old 09-05-2013, 03:05 PM
 
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I have been racking my brain, and I can't think of another. I mean, outside the realm of the entertainment industry. yet time and time again, it's teachers that are the most vocal about being underpaid, whatever that really means. underpaid compared to what I often wonder. so can anyone think of a profession more overpaid than teaching?
For what many teachers deal with and the amount of education that goes into it, I say teachers need to make more.
 
Old 09-05-2013, 03:06 PM
 
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Presumably work is based on generating profit in some way. And compensation should be based on profit generated.

Bankers and doctors and such can demand high salaries because they generate lots of $$$.

Teachers generate zero profit. Therefore their compensation is disproportionate.

The closest justification I can come up with is the equivalent cost of a full time babysitter for a group of kids since they are filling the same niche.
Depends.
In Private Schools teachers generate a profit in a way, because without teachers you have no one to teach the kids that the parents pay to put through school.

As for Public Education, this is where we need to get our values straightened out. We need public school teachers in the real world, and in the real world we live in an expensive country. We need to either raise taxes and pay public educators more, or we need to cut back on something (perhaps military) and pay teachers more. If you, or anyone else, needs justification for that it's pretty simple, less teachers = dumber kids = dumber adults = country going down the toilet.
 
Old 09-05-2013, 03:06 PM
 
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everything I know has been self taught. had a couple of good teachers in college, but that's about it. I am not jealous, I am content.
So this entire thread has absolutely no connection at all with your lot in life, it's simply to complain for the sake of complaining about something you're neither associated with nor want to be associated with.
 
Old 09-05-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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he was forced to get a job paying more. it came with a 2 hour commute. now he's totally miserable, all for about $10,000 extra a year.
That's a very odd case. Your brother was so overpaid he was forced to get a higher paying job?
 
Old 09-05-2013, 03:08 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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So this entire thread has absolutely no connection at all with your lot in life, it's simply to complain for the sake of complaining about something you're neither associated with nor want to be associated with.
That's what the internet is for. Also porn.

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Depends.
In Private Schools teachers generate a profit in a way, because without teachers you have no one to teach the kids that the parents pay to put through school.

As for Public Education, this is where we need to get our values straightened out. We need public school teachers in the real world, and in the real world we live in an expensive country. We need to either raise taxes and pay public educators more, or we need to cut back on something (perhaps military) and pay teachers more. If you, or anyone else, needs justification for that it's pretty simple, less teachers = dumber kids = dumber adults = country going down the toilet.
So basically, having less teachers is the reason this thread exists.
 
Old 09-05-2013, 03:08 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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but there really aren't too many professions that start out paying more. there are very few.
Personally I think you just started this thread to bash teachers.

Why is starting pay so important to you? Seems like you are cherry picking.
 
Old 09-05-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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That's a very odd case. Your brother was so overpaid he was forced to get a higher paying job?
Not to mention the brother, the teacher, worked in the summer, the time supposedly all teachers are lazing about drinking margaritas & watching soaps.
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