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Old 09-18-2013, 09:49 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Why should employers be burdened with providing healthcare to their employees?
This. We'd have a more nimble, mobile, entrepreneurial workforce if we didn't have the "golden handcuffs" that health insurance benefits provide. I know people who won't switch jobs because of their insurance, or who have put off/ruled out starting their own businesses for the same reason.

A single-payer system at the national level would eliminate those concerns.
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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Is this not going to ***** of the left about those evil corporations, by making MORE profit now?
Probably, but when have they not cried about about profits? This is their baby.
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Except for the 30 million still uninsured...
15% are uninsured and 60% of that 15% have chosen NOT to buy insurance.
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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And why do we now have so many c-sections? Malpractice insurance. Talk about a cost driver. Of course, most liability attorneys support and vote dem, so no we couldn't deal with the cost associated with malpractice. No, that would hurt dems livelihood. Bunch of hypocrits.
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Average cost for a Cesarian (a very common procedure) is almost $16,000 .
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This. We'd have a more nimble, mobile, entrepreneurial workforce if we didn't have the "golden handcuffs" that health insurance benefits provide. I know people who won't switch jobs because of their insurance, or who have put off/ruled out starting their own businesses for the same reason.

A single-payer system at the national level would eliminate those concerns.
That only works if EVERYONE PAYS
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Is this not going to ***** of the left about those evil corporations, by making MORE profit now?
I don't care if someone is **** off, because I know it is impossible to please everyone. Personally I am all for profitability and competiveness. The health insurance burden is one expense which EU corporations do not have, and which might explain why some EU countried beat US in competiveness.
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:57 AM
 
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That only works if EVERYONE PAYS
So you admit that single payer works?

Good. I agree.
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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So you admit that single payer works?

Good. I agree.
That would require you to admit Obamacare is a failure
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:58 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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That only works if EVERYONE PAYS
Exactly, which is why everyone should.
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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This. We'd have a more nimble, mobile, entrepreneurial workforce if we didn't have the "golden handcuffs" that health insurance benefits provide. I know people who won't switch jobs because of their insurance, or who have put off/ruled out starting their own businesses for the same reason.

A single-payer system at the national level would eliminate those concerns.
Agreed.

It is long past time to move to a new paradigm.
People are fully capable of buying car insurance, home owners/renters' insurance, etc. on their own.
There is just no reason to maintain this out-moded approach to health insurance.
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