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Old 09-19-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There are always guards on base....and who are these "others" allowed to carry...please provide a link...



Really? Then why do people go to gun free zones to make these mass shootings?

Schools...gun free, the colorado shooting, the guy passed 2 othe theaters to get to a theater that was "guess what" gun free....

The most rescent shooting, guess what, gun free...

Gun free = unless you are a guard or somethng like that, you are not allowed to have gun. Just putting that out there so people understand and not able to twist words...
Many of the mass shootings involved return to either a school or place where they either worked or were familiar and many had either guards or allowed guns. I don't really think that someone that is that crazy and plans on getting killed really cares much for the destination.
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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George H.W. Bush is so 1992.

It is 2013 and Barack Hussein Obama is the president.

It is his responsibility to deal with the problem - and his refusal to allow service personnel to be armed and able to defend themselves on base is putting lives at risk and has cost the lives of 25 people.
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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George H.W. Bush is so 1992.

It is 2013 and Barack Hussein Obama is the president.

It is his responsibility to deal with the problem - and his refusal to allow service personnel to be armed and able to defend themselves on base is putting lives at risk and has cost the lives of 25 people.
What directive, executive order, or legislation prevents personnel at the Naval Yard from carrying arms?
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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What directive, executive order, or legislation prevents personnel at the Naval Yard from carrying arms?
What? You started a thread and didn't understand your own link?
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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What? You started a thread and didn't understand your own link?
My link and referenced policies refer to Army bases - not to the Naval Yard.
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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My link and referenced policies refer to Army bases - not to the Naval Yard.
but your link failed to actually refered what the directive actually said..... DOD SCHOOL zones

it was the democrat congress in 1990 Crime Control Act of 1990. The GFSZA applied to school zones, not military installations...so DOD had to address it for military school zones

You are talking the dod directive about the SCHOOL zone aspect. schools in military installations. Not the installations genrally..Extending it to the installations generally was done by Clinton
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Extending it to the installations generally was done by Clinton
How? By which directive or order?
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Old 09-19-2013, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Another "if everyone had guns" thread as if that wouldn't cause other problems. There are restrictions on military bases for very good reasons and we don't need to arm everyone for the 1 in a billion event. There are already armed guards at many government and private facilities,we don't need solutions that are worse than the disease.
If that isn't the definition of a leftist ideology, then I don't know what is.
The "cure" you people come up with is fatally flawed -- to only let the criminals have guns.
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Old 09-19-2013, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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If that isn't the definition of a leftist ideology, then I don't know what is.
The "cure" you people come up with is fatally flawed -- to only let the criminals have guns.
The real flaw is people on the internet thinking they can make a difference with a gun in situations such as this, typing is one thing reality is quite another.
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Old 09-19-2013, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Canada
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The real flaw is people on the internet thinking they can make a difference with a gun in situations such as this, typing is one thing reality is quite another.
Living in the real world is one thing and cogitating about how you know better than anyone else is quite another. I realize the latter is the stock in trade of leftists, but get real.
You know zero about people on here, yet you'll tell us smugly that you know a gun cannot make a difference. Funny how it makes a difference for the criminal, though, isn't it?
Speaking personally, I have extensive military training in the use of firearms and don't get my impression of them and the good they can do from prime-time television, as you quite possibly do.
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