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How is the view that all people should have as much freedom as possible conductive of "white supremacist" values? White supremacists believe that other races are inferior and therefore should not be given the same rights as whites, which is the exact opposite of libertarian views.
So what are the mechanisms for protecting a person's rights and ensuring the Golden Rule is being followed? Are we operating under the assumption that state and local governments, and your fellow man have the hearts of angels?
No that's your perception of believing we want to live in some fairytale existence. Do me a favor and apply laws to the equation, except they would be common laws, not laws of convenience and control.
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Originally Posted by le roi
what, like gold? silver? oil? maize? a basket of metals?
and is this just your personal opinion, or are you suggesting it is a widely shared view among libertarians?
NO... jeez that's as myopic as it gets!
How about a basket of everything? It's so simple, yet few seem to grasp the concept.
Put all of our resources in a basket and set the known total value as the benchmark. Once the benchmark is set, that's what we have to base a commodity backed currency on. The only fluctuations in value would be the fluctuations in production. Value for value, not debt out of thin air.
Everyone is extreme when compared to the opposite/differing belief.
Accomplishments have nothing to do with what we are discussing. You made that a talking point, which has somehow morphed into a stipulation.
The problem with that is Libertarians are not in the center, you missed that didn't ya or are you simply ignoring that fact.
I asked a SIMPLE question, I see you cannot name any accomplishments by any Libertarians even though they have been around for quite a few years now. Got it, Libertarians are all talk not walk.
How is the view that all people should have as much freedom as possible conductive of "white supremacist" values? White supremacists believe that other races are inferior and therefore should not be given the same rights as whites, which is the exact opposite of libertarian views.
Don't even try to reason with this guy. There are 5000 supremacists in the country. If a few of them call themselves Libertarian, knownotinsky will label all of us supremacists. Seriously hopeless reasoning.
The problem with that is Libertarians are not in the center, you missed that didn't ya or are you simply ignoring that fact.
I asked a SIMPLE question, I see you cannot name any accomplishments by any Libertarians even though they have been around for quite a few years now. Got it, Libertarians are all talk not walk.
No, again, no!
I don't know any Libertarians who claim to be in the middle, except when compared to either party. I reiterate, it's you that has made accomplishments the crux of your discussion, and not anyone else in here.
You can repeat yourself as much as you'd like, but it won't change this fact.
Don't even try to reason with this guy. There are 5000 supremacists in the country. If a few of them call themselves Libertarian, knownotinsky will label all of us supremacists. Seriously hopeless reasoning.
Here's the thing about libertarianism - it takes the best of both current parties and it throws out the worst.
The 1960s really threw a wrench in American politics because it vastly corrupted both parties.
Prior to the 60s, the Republican party was actually fiscally conservative - they favored small government, few regulations, etc. It was an easy platform to get behind and is why there was a Republic president virtually every year from 1897 - 1933.
That was when Democratic / Socialist policies started to win elections because the Great Depression created a need for wealth redistribution, so people voted for the party that would do that. Democrats were then in office from 1933 - 1953.
Then in the 50s, the Depression and War was over, so it started to tilt back into Republican presidents - people preferred less socialist policies... up until the 60s when everything changed.
See, during the civil rights movement, the Republican Party stupidly championed the anti-rights platform. This lead a ton of people who previously supported them (who believed in small government) to leave and to vote Democrat instead. The problem with this was that by voting Democrat, they were unintentionally supporting Democrat financial policies of lots of spending, big government, etc.
Meanwhile, many racist Democrats also switched parties, and they started to vote Republican just because they opposed civil rights. In fact, all of the southern states used to be primarily Democrat before the 1960s and suddenly they became primarily Republican after. What changed was not their view on the size of the government (they still favored large government), it was simply their view on civil rights.
So all of a sudden the country went from having 1 small government party (Republicans) and 1 big government party (Democrats) to having TWO big government parties where the only difference was whether you were a racist or not.
That has essentially been how the parties have differed ever since - for the past 50 years!
But the thing is, people are starting to realize that it's better to have small government - but there's no party for them to go to. Some have been trying to steer the Republican Party back on course, but it's been too corrupted by the racists. So, since that effort mostly failed, the effort has gone into creating a brand new party - the Libertarian Party.
As I said at the top, this takes the best of both - it focuses on small government but it also says "we're not a bunch of racist *******s either". Basically, the concept is the same as the pre-1960s Republican Party, except new and improved: Pro-freedom but without religious or racist intolerance.
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