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Okie dokie, let's give Iran the ability to own nukes then, if irresponsible ownership of weapons isn't such a big deal. You can always punish them after they go off on a tangent and run a red light.
When you can no longer have a discussion, do as lefties do...change the subject of bring in nuclear weapons, of battleships, or jet fighter, or.....blah blah blah.....................
The amount of carelessness displayed by these gun owners is stunning, one grand parent leaving loaded guns around the house. Another job well done by the NRA fighting gun safety, access to loaded guns comes first safety of children second.
And DAMN the parents for build that swimming pool, which clearly kills more children than guns.....
The NRA has used faulty data and done everything they could to make sure the Center for Disease Control would not have funding to study accidental gun deaths, you would hope that their organization would want good data. The focus of the article was under reporting of accidental gun deaths particularly by minors, if correct it pushes accidental gun deaths into the top for children. Why guns are not addressed as a consumer safety product is an excellent question.
Agree with you on the NRA, no one should use them as an example to provide safety.
Prove it, the bold part above...! Or you are just another fibber who cares less about the truth...and tries to push an agenda by lying!
The amount of carelessness displayed by these gun owners is stunning, one grand parent leaving loaded guns around the house. Another job well done by the NRA fighting gun safety, access to loaded guns comes first safety of children second.
I would suggest putting the parents in jail but a liberal judge would probably just feel sorry for them and let them go.
Prove it, the bold part above...! Or you are just another fibber who cares less about the truth...and tries to push an agenda by lying!
You aren't really stating that the NRA took issue with the CDC Studies?
Quote:
(CBS News) On Monday, President Obama ordered the Centers for Disease Control
to begin research on the causes of gun violence. That was something that
Congress specifically prevented the CDC from doing.
"There is absolutely no question. These are preventable deaths," said Dr.
Mark Rosenberg, who used to oversee research into gun violence and prevention
at the Centers for Disease Control.
In 1996, the NRA successfully lobbied Congress to put this restriction into
the CDC's budget: "None of the funds made available ... may be used to advocate
or promote gun control
The NRA has used faulty data and done everything they could to make sure the Center for Disease Control would not have funding to study accidental gun deaths,
Extraordinary claims rightly need to present extraordinary evidence.
The NRA in its own words demonstrated to Congress that the CDC was funding research on gun deaths that depended on "junk" science. That could be argued it was pressure to prevent study, or it could be seen as justifiable given their scope of interests and that they were genuinely concerned with paying for research that was pushing an agenda that was not in the best interests of the country.
Can you provide evidence that what they are claiming was not true?
Even if it were is the CDC (Center for Disease Control) appropriate? This research Penn Medicine News: Protection or Peril? Gun Possession of Questionable Value in an Assault was funded by the National Institute of Health, what real impact was made, if the NIH could fund and the CDC could not does it really matter whether the CDC funds the research or the NIH since apparently the NIH has not be prevented from funding studies. We know CDC funding was restricted in 1996, we know that it was not permitted in 2009, yet the NIH funded a study that was released in 2009. So I ask what was the material effect of stopping the CDC from funding studies if the NIH could still fund studies?
I think it's important to realize that just because some establishment produces some form of research it does not mean that the research is either accurate nor meaningful. To establish that you need to examine methodology and determine whether it reaches a high enough confidence factor to validate the research, in many cases with gun violence research there are discrepancies between control groups and study groups.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
you would hope that their organization would want good data. The focus of the article was under reporting of accidental gun deaths particularly by minors, if correct it pushes accidental gun deaths into the top for children. Why guns are not addressed as a consumer safety product is an excellent question.
However the under reporting of accidental gun deaths in that report led the gun deaths to be reported as homicides. This means that either there are more accidental gun deaths than reported, and fewer homicides, OR that some accidental gun deaths are indeed homicides and recorded as such. The person who decides whether a shooting is accidental, or not is the coroner and/or DA.
The issue isn't that there are more child gun deaths than reported (child gun deaths being the sum of homicides and accidents), the issue is that there may be more accidental child gun deaths than reported, BUT that gun deaths are inconsistently categorized.
What did I miss in the article posted and what is your point?
That whoosing sound was the point going over your head. I gave an example of why the NRA opposes storage rules. You chose to ignore that. This is my shocked face:
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