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Art. I, § 7, Cl. 1- All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.
Cl. 2- Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. (It continues with how vetoed bills are handled by Congress)
Budget bills are like any other bill.
The Senate was not given the "power of the purse." The reason is that it is the House which is responsible to the people. It is the people's money. The Senate may not originate spending bills.
Upon further study, I recant the above statement, that the Senate cannot originate spending bills. The language of Article I Secion 7 is clear, referring only to bills to "raise revenue," and it has traditionally been understood that the Senate my introduce (instigate) spending bills, even though (again, traditionally) this has usually been left to the House.
Heritage Foundation disagrees with Andy McCarthy (on whose opinion I was relying for my position) on this.
Last edited by nononsenseguy; 10-08-2013 at 06:37 AM..
The Senate was not given the "power of the purse." The reason is that it is the House which is responsible to the people. It is the people's money. The Senate may not originate spending bills.
Then you agree that the House should vote. Hey, why not tell Boehner that?
Obama: "I declare Congress and the Executive Branch exempt from Obamacare and businesses exempt from the Obamacare mandate for a year since next year is election time. Even though the law was passed differently."
The House: "OK and you'll exempt the CITIZEN workers individual mandates, too, right?"
Obama: "No. I get to chose which parts of the law to enforce or not".
The House: "No you don't. And We have the power of the purse constitutionally, dude".
Obama: "Go F yourselves and that pathetic Constitution".
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Top 16 myths about the health care law
5. Congress is exempt from Obamacare. False.
Chain email, Jan. 6, 2013
Even a few sitting lawmakers have repeated this claim, but it’s not true. Congress is not exempt from Obamacare. Like everyone else, lawmakers are required to have health insurance. They’re also required to buy insurance through the marketplaces. The idea is to have lawmakers and their staff buy insurance the same way their uninsured constituents would so they understand what their constituents have to deal with. Most Americans who already get insurance through work are left alone under the law; members of Congress have insurance through work but are treated differently in this regard. Recently, a rule was added so that lawmakers’ could keep the traditional employer contribution to their coverage. But they weren’t exempt from requirements that other Americans face. We rated this claim False.
Step out of that Faux News/Limbaugh bubble sometimes.
Far left "Politifact" didn't mention the fact that King Obama approved a special subsidy for Congress and staff to make sure that they didn't suffer any premium hikes after being "subject to Obamacare."
Get your facts straight, because "Politifact" sure won't.
When did the Democrats use extortion by threatening to shut down the government to be rid of Bush's wet kiss to the rich tax cuts? Seriously...when?
Oh please.. Democrats have non stop whined and threatend shut downs from everything from the tax cuts, to the sequester... I remember Obama running around whining that seniors wouldnt get their checks.. Another lie...
Whats it matter? Is the shut down stopping your welfare check?
Then you agree that the House should vote. Hey, why not tell Boehner that?
the house voted several times. Call your buddy Mr Cleanface in the Senate and tell him to put to vote all the bills that the house has already passed.
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