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They like to call Obama the dictator, but think about it:
ACA was passed legally, per the Constitutional process, through the House, Senate, and White House. And it withstood Supreme Court review.
Boehner and his buddies have not mustered the electoral support to pass anything through the legislative process. They are a minority and are using threats against our livelihoods to try to dictate what they want.
And we know that most Americans strongly disapprove of what they are doing, even more than they disapprove of Obama and the Democrats, so they are clearly not interested in representing the "will of the people."
So who's the one trying to be the dictator: the one who went through the Constitutional process and achieve a valid result, or the one unilaterally demanding that the majority do certain things under the threat of national economic recession?
Conservatives are monarchists at heart. Democracy is anathema to them.
Which makes it really funny when the dupes who make up the TP where those tri-corn hats.
Newsflash: having the majority of the House does not give you a mandate to get rid of Obamacare.
newsflash for you, the republicans RAN on getting rid of obamacare in both 2010 and 2012, and guess what, they won the house back in 2010, and gained seats in senate on both election years. THAT gives them the mandate to get rid of obamacare. when you win elections on your major platform, you get the mandate that goes with the win.
Legal or not, Constitutional or not, THE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT OBAMACARE!
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Do you really want to start letting the people decide what's constitutional or not?
Most Americans polled are for stricter gun regulation, but the GOP is quick to claim that it's unconstitutional.
Also, since this bill was already signed in to law in 2009, THREE years before the presidential election, I am having a hard time understanding why Americans who don't want OBAMAcare would re-elect OBAMA.
As for OP, it's nothing new. The GOP are the ones who want to dictate what a woman does with her body, they want to dictate who can and can't marry. It's pretty typical of them.
They like to call Obama the dictator, but think about it:
ACA was passed legally, per the Constitutional process, through the House, Senate, and White House. And it withstood Supreme Court review.
Boehner and his buddies have not mustered the electoral support to pass anything through the legislative process. They are a minority and are using threats against our livelihoods to try to dictate what they want.
And we know that most Americans strongly disapprove of what they are doing, even more than they disapprove of Obama and the Democrats, so they are clearly not interested in representing the "will of the people."
So who's the one trying to be the dictator: the one who went through the Constitutional process and achieve a valid result, or the one unilaterally demanding that the majority do certain things under the threat of national economic recession?
Is there really nothing that can be done? How is it possible for people in Congress to hold up something that the people want? If the people actually want the ACA, and if their Congressman are going against the feelings of their constituents. Then wouldn't the sitting Congressmen be kicked out of office, and replaced by people who will do what the people want?
The democrats control the Senate. The Republicans only control the House. Which means, at best, sitting Congressmen can only stop the implementation of the ACA by at most two years.
On the other hand, if for one moment we take another viewpoint. In that, the American people never actually wanted the ACA to begin with. That the ACA was a mess from the beginning, and was rammed through Congress without anyone even reading it. And that those "tea-party" Republicans are actually doing the will of the people by blocking the implementation of something the people never wanted to begin with.
Then not only are they not simply holding up the implementation of the ACA until the next election. But by opposing the ACA, they are guaranteeing that they will be reelected. And all those who support the ACA in states/districts where it is unpopular, are going to be kicked out of office next election.
If you really believe the tea-party is going against the will of the people. Change the rules. Hell, the filibuster is not even in the constitution. And the debt issue, that might already be covered by the 14th amendment. And if there are other problems. Why not just propose a constitutional amendment? You know, instead of whining that popularly elected representatives. Who are doing exactly what their constituents asked for, are a bunch of dictators or terrorists or whatever you people are calling them now.
In closing.... What do you get when you cross a man with a potato? A dic-tator.
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They like to call Obama the dictator, but think about it:
ACA was passed legally, per the Constitutional process, through the House, Senate, and White House. And it withstood Supreme Court review.
Actually it was passed as a financial bill requiring only a simple majority, and recieved not a single republican vote. It withstood Supreme court review, the question was, "Is it a tax, or is it a fine". That's all the supreme court review was.
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Boehner and his buddies have not mustered the electoral support to pass anything through the legislative process. They are a minority and are using threats against our livelihoods to try to dictate what they want.
Boehner has received simple majority vote in the house, the same way it was funded, now being defunded. It works both ways, if a simple majority can fund, a simple majority, can defund. Electoral support is unnecessary.
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And we know that most Americans strongly disapprove of what they are doing, even more than they disapprove of Obama and the Democrats, so they are clearly not interested in representing the "will of the people."
You are absolutely correct, the majority of Americans want the ACA if not defunded, at least delayed a year, the House of Representatives are acting upon that. They disapprove of the SENATE shenanigans and obama's people telling others to "make it hurt".
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So who's the one trying to be the dictator: the one who went through the Constitutional process and achieve a valid result, or the one unilaterally demanding that the majority do certain things under the threat of national economic recession?
Obviously Reid is the one trying to be dictator, he has dictated his view not to entertain any bill except what he wants, even though the MAJORITY of the House of Representatives want otherwise.
newsflash for you, the republicans RAN on getting rid of obamacare in both 2010 and 2012, and guess what, they won the house back in 2010, and gained seats in senate on both election years. THAT gives them the mandate to get rid of obamacare. when you win elections on your major platform, you get the mandate that goes with the win.
So did Mitt Romney run on getting rid of "obamacare."
They like to call Obama the dictator, but think about it:
ACA was passed legally, per the Constitutional process, through the House, Senate, and White House. And it withstood Supreme Court review.
Boehner and his buddies have not mustered the electoral support to pass anything through the legislative process. They are a minority and are using threats against our livelihoods to try to dictate what they want.
And we know that most Americans strongly disapprove of what they are doing, even more than they disapprove of Obama and the Democrats, so they are clearly not interested in representing the "will of the people."
So who's the one trying to be the dictator: the one who went through the Constitutional process and achieve a valid result, or the one unilaterally demanding that the majority do certain things under the threat of national economic recession?
And the Government shutdown is legal and Constitutional. What is your angle?
They like to call Obama the dictator, but think about it:
ACA was passed legally, per the Constitutional process, through the House, Senate, and White House. And it withstood Supreme Court review.
and Adolph Obama keeps handing out EXEMPTIONS to that law that was PASSED BY CONGRESS.....a violation of the separation of powers....an impeachable act
You are absolutely correct, the majority of Americans want the ACA if not defunded, at least delayed a year, the House of Representatives are acting upon that.
You aren't talking about Americans. Americans don't support the GOP's stunt.
So did Mitt Romney run on getting rid of "obamacare."
that was one of his platforms yes, but given the political climate at the time, and all the lies and slander of romney in the campaign, and the fact that romney didnt hit back very hard, he lost the election. i twasnt his stance on obamacare though that lost him the election.
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