Ironically, Tea party Republicans have now fully taken on the role of would-be dictators (Putin, healthcare)
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..... when you win elections on your major platform, you get the mandate that goes with the win.
Yes, I'll agree. So why don't you recognize that a central issue in the last Presidential election was the ACA - with Obama continuing to endorse the Congressional approval of the legislation, and Mr. Romney vowing to do away with it? The President was selected by a majority of the voters to run this country, with the full knowledge that he would continue to support the Congressionally-approved, and Supreme Court verified (constitutionality) ACA. Elections have consequences, as Sen. McCain said the other day. All credible, bi-partisan polling this past week shows overwhelming support of those asked ... to disconnect discussion of the ACA from the financial struggle between the House and the Senate. The American Taliban needs to recognize that and respect the will of the people.
newsflash for you, the republicans RAN on getting rid of obamacare in both 2010 and 2012, and guess what, they won the house back in 2010, and gained seats in senate on both election years. THAT gives them the mandate to get rid of obamacare. when you win elections on your major platform, you get the mandate that goes with the win.
Oh, the irony. What about the President's mandate? Didn't he run on proposing Obamacare?
Wow, your economy crashed? How exactly does being responsible, crash an economy, but borrowing tens of trillions, that you cant afford, not?
And if a small group cant be responsible for governing, then clearly that means the large group is responsible for the shut down..
hypocrite..
Withholding paychecks from 2 millions Americans and threatening not pay bills already owed in order to get what you want is not responsible behavior.
A small group can be responsible for extortion, as we're discovering today. They have to extort to get their way because they don't have the support to legislate.
The hypocrites are conservatives who claim to love the Constitution and have the "will of the people" on their side when they resort to hostage-taking to stop Constitutionally-valid laws from taking effect and when all the polls show how much Americans HATE them.
So Republicans arent responsible for shutting down government then?
Either the electorial process mattes, thus the left wing kook whining over the process isnt justified, or polls matter, and thus the election process is meaningless..
both cant be true.. Which is it?
That ... makes no sense.
The electoral process matters, and it ain't the left whining about it.
The polls matter, which confirm the results of the most recent electoral process.
I think you should put down whatever you're smoking.
They like to call Obama the dictator, but think about it:
ACA was passed legally, per the Constitutional process, through the House, Senate, and White House. And it withstood Supreme Court review.
Boehner and his buddies have not mustered the electoral support to pass anything through the legislative process. They are a minority and are using threats against our livelihoods to try to dictate what they want.
And we know that most Americans strongly disapprove of what they are doing, even more than they disapprove of Obama and the Democrats, so they are clearly not interested in representing the "will of the people."
So who's the one trying to be the dictator: the one who went through the Constitutional process and achieve a valid result, or the one unilaterally demanding that the majority do certain things under the threat of national economic recession?
Like Hell it was...... Are you in the habit to sign your name to legal documents you never read?
Like Hell it was...... Are you in the habit to sign your name to legal documents you never read?
It was legit, can't help that you and the rest of the tea party ilk are sore losers about it. It can be legitimately repealed if opponents win enough electoral support to pass a repeal into law.
If you don't like to abide by the Constitution, then...sorry, you're not going to like living here.
That is fine and dandy but the republicans have failed to articulate a better healthcare delivery system. And please spare me the cross state line and tort BS, because those will not fix this mess period, and they know it. The republican party is told by the insurance companies to rebel as much as they can although several of these companies are going to make plenty of money because of Obamacare. But, they know as anyone else, overtime this hootananny is going to end and morph into a delivery system they will not like at all. So, the alternative is move the pig back to the slop house.
So let me get this straight. Our previous health insurance system was so awful, it had to be replaced IMMEDIATELY with ObamaCare, or old people would die, and children would suffer.
But this current health insurance system is far worse, with higher costs and more regulation, but there's no need to change is ever.
Do I have that about right?
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