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As a Dad your job is to die saving your family.
As a cop your job is to stop someone killing themselves.
From what I've read going back into the house would have been suicidal and futile.
The child would have died anyways, the father is alive, and both men can say they did their best.
Oh man, that guy is never going to be able to live with that. I'd rather die attempting to save my child than have him die with me doing nothing. What a nightmare!
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I guess I don't get this whole story, because I don't care how much smoke or fire there is, I would NEVER leave my house in an emergency without my kids. I would die in there first.
He could have gone back in BEFORE the police arrived.
What is the rest of the story here?
I'm thinking the same thing... as a mother.. I would have never left the house either... Your child comes first... always....
I guess I don't get this whole story, because I don't care how much smoke or fire there is, I would NEVER leave my house in an emergency without my kids. I would die in there first.
He could have gone back in BEFORE the police arrived.
What is the rest of the story here?
I agree, there is more that I'd like to know. I'm assuming from where they were downstairs, their best exit was the back door. When outside they call 911, police arrive five minutes later. I'm going to assume dad thought they'd arrive and save his boy, but instead they wanted to wait for the firefighters, so the dad took it upon himself. That makes sense to me.
The original 911 call came in at 12:58 a.m. at 405 S. Main St. Firefighters arrived at the scene at 1:03 a.m.
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The parents were able to reach a rear door in the room and exit the building after after the smoke woke them from their sleep. They called 911, Jenne said.
The Millers ran around to the front of the building and Ryan Miller kicked in the front door as police and firefighters arrived.
Emphasis mine. They got out of the house, and called 911 at 12:58. The police and firefighters arrived at 1:03. That is five minutes. Why did it take him five minutes to decide to go back in and save his son? Why didn't they grab their son before they left?
I don't have kids, but I do have pets. And even with my pets I would try to get them all out before I exited the house if it was on fire. I would never just leave them there. That's PETS, not a child.
Sorry, but I agree with others, there's more to this story.
We don't know the degree of the fires involvement, we don't have a clue as to the state of mind of the father, was he making a rational or was he acting purely on emotions.
We also don't know the state of mind of the cop who assaulted the man trying to save his child's life.
Either way it would be the first time that police, or firefighters - hell or bystanders - have prevented someone from doing something totally reckless regardless of what the stakes might be.
The cop did not refrain from recklessly tazing the father, so your analysis is faulty.
Fire fighting training is key. Looking at the photo of the dwelling, that place was already a fire trap. Place like that means the fire spreads quickly. It also means the kid was probably already dead from the smoke. In fire, you must fight against your natural responses. If you don't have protective gear, don't go back in to try to rescue someone. With Navy engine room fire fighting training, they taught us if fighting a fire and you're backing out to the escape shaft, don't go if you see someone down. You'll just add another body for the fire fighting team to trip over. Once the fire spread, the structure is weakened and the father could have been killed by smoke, flames, and or second floor collapse.
This discussion isn't about whether it was safe to or even possible to re-enter the house and save the kid.
This thread is about the reckless and egregious actions of the cop who assaulted and arrested a man for entering his own home.
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