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In myriad ways. Can you really not think of dozens?
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As I recall, rights are ONLY removed by adjudication - due process.
Not true at all. Rights can be regulated or removed by legislative action. (And I also will point out that adjudication is governmental action - i.e. governmental regulation).
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Felons: rights removed by trial.
Wrong. In places where felons are denied the right to vote, they are denied the right to do so via laws passed by legislatures and signed by governors.
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Non-citizens: Our government does not exist to defend their rights.
Nor does our government exist to deny rights to non-citizens, yet it does.
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under age 18: Judged incompetent. That doesn't stop some people wanting to lower the age to 17, 15, 11, etc.
Yes, judged incompetent by legislators and government executives who then pass regulatory laws denying them the right to vote.
No, I didn't argue anything about why. I'm critiquing your logic.
You're making it up as you go.
I suspect you are using a false equivalency, because I have not argued many points in my discussion here.
I think it's extremely difficult, if not impossible, to use the U.S. Constitution to argue against gay marriage. Arguing on "tradition" is silly and ineffective because that's irrelevant to the Constitution. If you want to make a common good argument, then go right ahead, but that's highly debatable as to its validity.
I guess I never considered gay marriage as being more against what I believed than more of what others wanted. I don't know if that make sense. My beliefs of gay marriage is less important than others who want it.
how bout it liberals. brother marrying sister. two consenting adults.
If you want to, why not? As for me, I do love my siblings but nothing about them "Turns me on"
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So, you're saying that because someone wants some legal rights and privileges, they should be give them?
Unless there's a compelling reason to deny someone equal access to civil institutions, then yes, people should all be given the same legal rights and privileges.
Government doesn't get to discriminate just because. It needs a compelling reason to do so.
Why do straights need to marry? Did it ever cross your mind that we also want the same protections and benefits that our tax dollars also pay for? And you are wrong, the federal government recognizes that marriage is a right.
So, you want legal rights and privileges? Which ones are those?
All the same ones that straight people get with marriage, no less, no more. Is that simple enough for you to understand? We pay taxes too, we vote too, we are US citizens too, not a separate species, we are humans, just like you are.
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