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Hospitals customarily over charge for services, they know insurance will only pay an agreed upon portion of the bill, so the hire the bill the more gets paid, it is a numbers game and they both play it well.
When do you suppose we will ever address the issue?
Totally agree, we really need to go to single payer. The tax increases would still be less than the cost of premiums and potential cost shock (like the bill in the original post) from any major illness.
People are manipulated with scare stories, but most of the people I know who live in Canada, Norway, Denmark, and Finland are quite happy with their Single Payer systems. They are not perfect, but they are far better than the crazy insurance system we have today.
It might sound worse than it is, I honestly have no problems with my insurance.
When do you suppose we will ever address the issue?
I dunno, it is kind of like a double edged sword, a never ending vicious cycle. Hospitals charge more, insurance raises premiums, co pays and deductibles. Round and round we go!
Totally agree, we really need to go to single payer. The tax increases would still be less than the cost of premiums and potential cost shock (like the bill in the original post) from any major illness.
People are manipulated with scare stories, but most of the people I know who live in Canada, Norway, Denmark, and Finland are quite happy with their Single Payer systems. They are not perfect, but they are far better than the crazy insurance system we have today.
you cant afford singlepayer
singlepayer to cover 320 million people would cost 3-6 trillion dollars a year (and going up every year )
meanwhile there are less than 100 million taxpayers
singlepayer to cover 320 million people would cost 3-6 trillion dollars a year (and going up every year )
meanwhile there are less than 100 million taxpayers
This is what I don't get about the SP praisers. If they wanted it so bad and think it is the right thing to do, they should just go out and buy two HC plans. One for them and one for their poor neighbor because essentially that's what would have to happen since so few pay any taxes. They just think that the 53% or so that pay taxes will just pay a few extra bucks each year and all 300+ million people would magically be covered. It doesn't occur to them at all that it is simply impossible. Then they point to a country that has only 20 million people in it and 75% pay taxes as the model.
singlepayer to cover 320 million people would cost 3-6 trillion dollars a year (and going up every year )
meanwhile there are less than 100 million taxpayers
That's why healthcare COSTS have to be reduced and controlled. Americans pay such high healthcare costs so that the rest of the world pays lower healthcare costs. Add in the additional middleman costs in the form of insurance, and the path we are currently on means Americans can't afford not to go to singlepayer. Singlepayer is the only way Americans will have the leverage to lower and control healthcare costs. Even if it means that other countries will end up paying more for healthcare.
singlepayer to cover 320 million people would cost 3-6 trillion dollars a year (and going up every year )
meanwhile there are less than 100 million taxpayers
I call bogus on this number. A three trillion dollar difference in swag.
Costs don't double if we are single payer, other than the overall costs would be lower and more in check. Actually, they would almost certainly drop
The system as it is now is outrageously overpriced. No other country pays even close to what we pay per capita and still most people limited access to healthcare.
Every one of your arguments just makes clear the reasons why we need single payer and we need it now.
American's would be so much freer if they didn't have to be slaves to employers and insurance companies just to get healthcare.
You'd think those on the far right who always talk about freedom would want that.
This is what happens when the government looks the other way when 14 million plus illegals can go to the emergency room .. To off set the cost the hospital has to charge the insurance companies much higher payment to cover all the freebees the hospital gives to those who enter this country illegally.
The American people are being robbed and our government doesn't really care about the middle class. We are in a downward spiral and no democrat wants to fix it. They rather keep the power with freebees to all even though the American people have to suffer the consequences of oppressive hospital bills that will drown the working class.
Last time I was performing volunteer administrative duties in one of your hospital emergency units it wasn't illegals sitting there, but rather it was everyone across the spectrum of lower & middle class Americans most employed but some not, some with teeth, some not, some with cognitive reasoning skills some not, some obviously addicted, some not, some well dressed, some not, .....in short it was your average American citizen and a whole bunch of them DID NOT HAVE INSURANCE OF ANY KIND!
It ain't the illegals causing your problems. They are but just one more symptom of a pervasive malaise that goes right to your very core as a country. The only time you folks pull together in anything resembling a familial unit is when you're going to war; even then it's iffy.
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