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Old 02-26-2014, 12:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude View Post
Only in the Trutherverse.

Here in the real universe, the rules all behaved exactly the same that day as any other.

then explain why WTC-7 was the first ever steel framed building to be brought down by fire!

waiting...

 
Old 02-26-2014, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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Still tossing your various pearls to the resident "truther" swine, I see?

Can this thread be moved to the "Whacko Conspiracy Theories" section?

Please???
Exactly. There's no point in debating with crazy.

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What also gets me is that basically:

A concerted effort to conduct a professional demolition on two of the largest and most prominent buildings in the world perpetrated by hundreds or more shadowy government spooks completely undetected with absolutely no evidence whatsoever to their actions = entirely possible and totally probable.

19 guys going to airline pilot school and then flying planes into buildings after exploiting notoriously-weak airline security to get knives onboard = fantastical and impossible gibberish nonsense.

I believe the proper response to this, is "derp.'
Again, the Truthers have provided no evidence whatsoever. Just another 29 pages of false accusations, paranoia and an astonishing level of cognitive dissonance.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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Exactly. There's no point in debating with crazy.

yea, debate and dissent are disgusting things that should be banned...
 
Old 02-26-2014, 12:46 PM
 
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yea, debate and dissent are disgusting things that should be banned...
And questioning the government and the media. We should have blind faith in both because neither would ever lie to us. They love us and only want the best for us. Don't they?
 
Old 02-26-2014, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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This is the problem with so called "debates" about 9/11.

Most OPs on the subject focus on some limited aspect and demonstrate the bias of the poster. [MOD CUT]
http://www.city-data.com/forum/33591768-post1048.html

This poster talked about Occam's Razor as though he was being logical and now talks about what is easier for people to believe. That is how most people treat Occam's Razor but they also throw out facts they regard as inconvenient to their beliefs. The true application of Occam's Razor must account for all of the facts and what people find easy to believe is irrelevant.

But I think that 9/11 has become a different order of problem. David Chandler teaches high school physics and is apparently on the side of so called "Truthers". But when has he ever tried to explain the physics of skyscrapers by discussing how steel and concrete must be distributed down the buildings so they can hold themselves up against gravity?

Talking about Occam's Razor without settling that is pretty absurd for people in the nation that put men on the Moon. But all of the people talking about False Flags and Operation Northwoods are just as ridiculous.

However our so called "scientists" and "engineers" have put themselves in a peculiar position by not resolving this by now. Maybe that is more important than any real conspiracies. Because if the physics dictates that there had to some conspiracy beyond the 19 Arabs then scientists should have figured it out in 2002. So if they did and remained silent that is another problem. Our scientific educational system has to deal with real physics no matter what the majority of dummies find "easier to believe".

psik
While watching the towers burn, my husband said that the tower was going to collapse and low and behold it did. Not hard to understand that steel melts and the upper floors collapsing onto the lower floors, well you get it right? He passed physics.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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then explain why WTC-7 was the first ever steel framed building to be brought down by fire!
Because it was the first ever steel framed building that experienced what WTC7 experienced that day.

Duh.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 12:51 PM
 
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then explain why WTC-7 was the first ever steel framed building to be brought down by fire!

waiting...
Easy..

It was unprecedented.

An unprecedented attack

Unprecedented logic

Unprecedented laws of physics

Unprecedented botched investigation

Unprecedented lies and cover up

It was literally a first for everything!

Now we know!!

Says only the most naive person in the world.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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yea, debate and dissent are disgusting things that should be banned...
Debate and dissent, even in the service of stupidity and paranoia, should not be banned.

It should be mocked mercilessly.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 12:52 PM
 
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Because it was the first ever steel framed building that experienced what WTC7 experienced that day.

Duh.
Really? WTC 7 was the first building to ever be hit by debris and catch fire?

That's amazing.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 12:56 PM
 
Location: midwest
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While watching the towers burn, my husband said that the tower was going to collapse and low and behold it did. Not hard to understand that steel melts and the upper floors collapsing onto the lower floors, well you get it right? He passed physics.
That is one possibility.

The other possibility is that they never should have collapsed and some other factor was involved. Which would mean he was wrong and we need to find that other factor.

So how did he explain the north tower coming down in 25 seconds without knowing the distribution of mass? But we still do ot have that data today.

And should some engineering school have been able to model the event in 12 years?

psik
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