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Old 03-14-2014, 07:42 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Yes. Cut your family vacations, Christmas gifts for your kids, college tuition and retirement savings just to subsidize your comrade's health insurance.
This is my biggest complaint^^^.
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Old 03-14-2014, 07:44 AM
 
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...because health care will eventually be mandated.



Show me evidence of "millions" of policies being cancelled. Only Fox News is blasting this nonsense with no data whatsoever. Quite frankly, the president is completely right about this being an issue of personal responsibility. Ironically, the so called "fiscal conservatives" are the ones bitching about it.

Thank goodness for Fox News. Without them you'd have to find another scapegoat for reporting facts you don't like about Ocare. Even the liberal Urban Institute reports that millions of policies were cancelled because of Ocare. Remember the so-called 'junk' policies that Obama wants extended through 2017.
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Old 03-14-2014, 07:46 AM
 
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Hence, why socialized health care always beats private health care. You have to redistribute the cost or people will be left out.

Under the ACA, everyone will be able to afford it. It is based on your AGI.
As I noted, you note that not everyone can afford it but yet fall back on this argument. If everyone could afford it the president wouldn't have had to have made his stupid speech either.
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:08 AM
 
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Why are you taking that phrase out of context? Don't you have a valid argument?

I would like to see you build a successful business without any infrastructure to support it.....no roads, no bridges, no phone service, no safety forces, no mail service, no internet, no financial services.
I would like to see infrastructure built without that successful business paying taxes..

Just stop the stupidity. Government has NOTHING without taking it from society first. Even the land those roads were built on had to come from the private sector.

Stop bowling down to government.
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:10 AM
 
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Tell that to the Republicans. I've yet to see any alternatives.

(Breaking News: ACA is the Republican ("fiscally conservative") health care plan )
Stop lying..

btw, have YOU purchased that insurance yet that you are whining that everyone else MUST have, or they are low down bums who drain society?
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:12 AM
 
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Hence, why socialized health care always beats private health care. You have to redistribute the cost or people will be left out.

Under the ACA, everyone will be able to afford it. It is based on your AGI.
If everyone can afford it, then why havent YOU bought it?

What a hypocrite. Run around telling everyone to cut their phone, their cable, because healthcare is a priority and very affordable, while at the same time post that you dont have it and dont plan to acquire it until next year..

WHY NOT?
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:13 AM
 
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Quite frankly, the president is completely right about this being an issue of personal responsibility. Ironically, the so called "fiscal conservatives" are the ones bitching about it.
Then why Erik, DONT YOU HAVE INSURANCE?
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:14 AM
 
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Where do you think that tax money will go? (Hint: expansion of medicaid)
HELLO? ANYONE HOME? THERE WILL STILL BE 30,000,000 WITHOUT INSURANCE...

YOU ARE ONE OF THEM, while you lecture everyone here about how affordable it is..

What a tool...
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:16 AM
 
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You cannot mandate a for-profit industry to cover high-risk people and expect prices to stay the same. It is basic math.
Which is why we laughed our ass off when Obama said premiums would fall $2500 per year or 3,000%...

and yet we still have people arguing he was truthful then, and still now... Ironically the very ones who claim its affordable, and everyone should have it, but dont have it themself..

BEING YOU!!!
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Why are you taking that phrase out of context? Don't you have a valid argument?

I would like to see you build a successful business without any infrastructure to support it.....no roads, no bridges, no phone service, no safety forces, no mail service, no internet, no financial services.
And I would like to see government "build" all that stuff without taking taxpayer money.

Without our money government can't build all that stuff.

The left seem to despise "self" and "independent".
Well there are some of us that don't want to join your "village".
We don't like the thought of being part of the collective.
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