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The Clinton "surpluses" didnt begin to appear until after he cut taxes in 1997. he of course did this in order to grow the economy which increased revenues, (once again, despite your claim that it happens)
This included a $500 child tax credit
Capital gainst tax cuts from 28% to 20%
The establishment of educational and roth IRA's..
The economy began to grow and people spent more money, increased tax revenues.
George Bush tax cuts also raised revenues, the problem was he increased spending more than the increase..
Capital gains tax cuts decrease government revenues (at least thats what economists say.)
But in matters of economics republicans don't trust economists, rather they trust republican CEO politicians, they trust Fox news, and they trust Rush radio.
Then how did Clinton create surpluses? Revenues again INCREASED... According to you, (and these economists), thats impossible.
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Originally Posted by chad3
But in matters of economics republicans don't trust economists, rather they trust CEO republican politicians, they trust Fox news, and they trust Rush radio.
But in matters of economics republicans don't trust economists, rather they trust republican CEO politicians, they trust Fox news, and they trust Rush radio.
I believe that income should be taxed as income period but I've learned that any article that starts "Experts agree..." that you have to take the article with a grain of salt.
Then how did Clinton create surpluses? Revenues again INCREASED... According to you, (and these economists), thats impossible.
your hate is duly noted...
I explained in a earlier post how G(H)W Bush and Bill Clinton helped create a balanced budget.
You said "your hate is duly noted", good eye pghquest.
I constantly try to be nice and respectful to republicans, but sometimes I hear/read something and I just come to attack.
(But outside of politics I love republicans.)
I heard this song on a Netflix TV show last night, and I can't stop listening to it (I'm just trying to be nice here.)
But perhaps you have to watch that Heartland episode to like the song as much as me?
you keep mentioning choices and yet fail to see those who cannot .or dont want to pay for health insurance also made CHOICES
if they did not educate/train themselves to be employed in a better paying job THEY MADE THAT CHOICE
if they have more children than their budget can afford THEY MADE THAT CHOICE
if they dont work cus the govt hands them money THEY MADE THAT CHOICE
if they live in a area where the unemployment is high THEY MADE THAT CHOICE
if they choice to spend what money they have on things other than health insurance THEY MADE THAT CHOICE
its funny how folks who talk about choice want to take away my CHOICE as to what health insurance i CHOICE to purchase
when you turn the premise around it doesnt seem so noble does it ???
lastly where in the constitution does it say you are ENTITLED TO health care , the constitution ( actually the D.O I ) garrantees you the right to life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness TO LIVE OUR LIVES AS WE WISH
you CHOICE how you achieve and use those RIGHTS
??? How does someone without money "MAKE THAT CHOICE" to not spend on something that requires money???
If you never get a refund, there is no paying. Got it? Those who are at least somewhat smart with their money realize that you do not get refunds.
It is very difficult for the vast majoriity of taxpayers to never get a refund.
Let's say you have a job and earn a salary. Your employer withholds taxes from your paycheck, and you probably will not owe taxes at the end of the year..
Let's say you now buy a house with an 80% mortgage. You will be able to itemize deductions for at least several years.
It is very difficult for the vast majoriity of taxpayers to never get a refund.
Let's say you have a job and earn a salary. Your employer withholds taxes from your paycheck, and you probably will not owe taxes at the end of the year..
Let's say you now buy a house with an 80% mortgage. You will be able to itemize deductions for at least several years.
NOW how do you avoid getting a refund?
You can change your W-4 any time. So after you buy that house change your W-4 and add a few more deductions so less taxes are taken out. The deductions on your W-4 is not the same as the deductions you take on your federal tax return.
As a single person you can only claim 1 on your 1040 but you can claim 1-2-3-4-etc. on your W-4.
If they are broke they can't afford the deductibles and co-pays either.
What part of "based on your income" do you not understand?
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We spend over $1 trillion a year on 83+ means tested programs and that's just to keep 4% living a middle class lifestyle ? All that money going to 12 million people ?
Where the hell is that money going ?
You must be thinking of TANF which is only 1 program.
The Census Bureau shows 33% of Americans on one more more of the 83+ means tested government programs.
We don't spend over $1 trillion a year on welfare. Feel free to research government spending. I know you don't care, so there is no point in discussing it.
It is entertaining that you are so allergic to data. You don't even read the numbers presented to you.
I would suggest that we completely abandon the system of for profit health insurance and start from scratch. That does not mean that I believe that it needs to be taken over by the government to make it work. I think that stepping outside of the box, way outside of the box, is necessary to solving this.
I think the answer lies somewhere in a compromise.
A national single-payer system funded through payroll taxes is the most efficient way to provide everyone with basic health care.
However, the private health care system should remain on a fee-only basis for elective / specialist procedures and primary care. If doctors can do it better than government, they should be allowed to do so. Waiting times can be combated by allowing this private option to remain available for those willing to pay.
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