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Nope, mandating insurance companies to give coverage for pre-existing conditions would have the identical effect of Obamacare. You cannot mandate a for-profit industry to cover high-risk people and expect prices to stay the same. It is basic math.
And that's exactly what opponents of Obamacare were saying during all those town halls with the Dems telling everyone their premiums would go down.
And that's exactly what opponents of Obamacare were saying during all those town halls with the Dems telling everyone their premiums would go down.
We said it was impossible.
Turns out we were right weren't we ?
And dont forget, they also said we could create a $1T surplus with ACA, increase benefits, insure everyone, and still premiums would go down.. AFTER raising taxes to pay for it..
yeah, how many idiots believed that? Clearly half of americans who voted.
I would like to see infrastructure built without that successful business paying taxes..
Just stop the stupidity. Government has NOTHING without taking it from society first. Even the land those roads were built on had to come from the private sector.
Stop bowling down to government.
Everyone pays the taxes that support infrastructure.....not just businesses.
Tell me, how would roads and bridges, etc. be built without government collecting the tax money to build them?
How about the honor system? Everyone will just donate their fair share.......yeah.....that'll work.
I am not bowling with , or, bowing down to government......I just realize that without government we would have nothing but total chaos.
Everyone pays the taxes that support infrastructure
No, not everyone pays taxes to support infrastrure.. I havent paid them in 13 years.. yes I should contribute, but YOU are the one supporting the current system and high 5ng their success while attacking businesses for using the very same infrastructure THEY PAID FOR.
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not just businesses.
But your tyraid was about businesses using that infrastructure, which is why my response dealt with that..
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Tell me, how would roads and bridges, etc. be built without government collecting the tax money to build them?.
How were they built before the federal government created a budget for them?
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How about the honor system? Everyone will just donate their fair share.......yeah.....that'll work.
I am not bowling with, or, bowing down to government......I just realize that without government we would have nothing but total chaos.
Even when he decides to try and be a little honest he can't help but resort to lies in the end.
"For the average person, many folks who don't have health insurance initially, they're going to have to make some choices. And they might end up having to switch doctors, in part because they're saving money," said Obama in an interview with the medical website WebMD.
"But that’s true if your employer suddenly decides we think this network’s going to give a better deal, we think this is going to help keep premiums lower, you've got to use this doctor as opposed to that one, this hospital as opposed to that one. The good news is in most states people have more than one option and what they'll find, I think, is that their doctor or network or hospital that's conveniently located is probably in one of those networks. Now, you may find out that that network's more expensive than another network. And then you've got to make a choice in terms of what's right for your family."
To the average American all we have is our cable TV for entertainment. We cannot afford to go out to eat. We cannot afford a weekend away let alone a trip to Florida to play golf or in the case of Moochelle a upcoming trip to China with the kids. Didn't they just get back from Hawaii? Does anyone realise the cost to the taxpayers for these trips? it is in the 100's of millions!
This sure is an example of "DO AS WE SAY NOT AS WE DO"!
No, not everyone pays taxes to support infrastrure.. I havent paid them in 13 years.. yes I should contribute, but YOU are the one supporting the current system and high 5ng their success while attacking businesses for using the very same infrastructure THEY PAID FOR.
Did I attack businesses for using infrastructure......or...... did I just point out that a business cannot survive as an island unto itself? Without the help of society.....private citizens and other businesses.....they would not have the infrastructure that they need to build their business. True or False?
Are you being deliberately obtuse? or............
But your tyraid was about businesses using that infrastructure, which is why my response dealt with that....
How is my statement any more of a TIRADE than your statements? And, I said nothing about being against them using infrastructure, did I?
How were they built before the federal government created a budget for them?
Do you think the infrastructure we had back in those days would suffice now?
Who is suggesting we abolish government?
You are the one railing against government, aren't you?
Do you want the federal government to collect taxes to pay for infrastructure or don't you?
If you don't.....how should it be done?
How long do you think it would take to build an interstate highway if every single local government was responsible for paying for and building their own section of the highway? Can you say cluster****?
To the average American all we have is our cable TV for entertainment. We cannot afford to go out to eat. We cannot afford a weekend away let alone a trip to Florida to play golf or in the case of Moochelle a upcoming trip to China with the kids. Didn't they just get back from Hawaii? Does anyone realise the cost to the taxpayers for these trips? it is in the 100's of millions!
This sure is an example of "DO AS WE SAY NOT AS WE DO"!
Would you mind listing the Presidents who lived like the average American?
You are the one railing against government, aren't you?
Do you want the federal government to collect taxes to pay for infrastructure or don't you?
If you don't.....how should it be done?
Who suggested government shouldnt collect taxes to pay for infrastructure?
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How long do you think it would take to build an interstate highway if every single local government was responsible for paying for and building their own section of the highway? Can you say cluster****?
Immaterial to the discussion because once again, regardless of who built it, it only took place because society gave up private lands and capital to have it done.
It doesnt magically poof appear because government said so.
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