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Old 03-15-2014, 11:50 PM
 
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The gop is wasting time using the ACA as a campaign issue. Why don't they tell us what they will do for us instead.
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Old 03-16-2014, 12:11 AM
 
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Pelosi: Republicans “Are Wasting Their Time” Using Obamacare as an Electoral Issue (Video) | The Gateway Pundit

Translation: you are killing us with the so-called affordable care act, please stop.
Ooh. Is she going to whip out the crocodile tears ploy again?
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Old 03-16-2014, 12:15 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The gop is wasting time using the ACA as a campaign issue. Why don't they tell us what they will do for us instead.
They have, repeal Obamacare.
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Old 03-16-2014, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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They have, repeal Obamacare.
Just they have uniform idea on replacing it just yet.
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Old 03-16-2014, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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Just they have uniform idea on replacing it just yet.

It will take forever to undo the wrongs the present administration has done in 5 short years; what kind of bizarre crap will he try next? How many people are going to go along with this sham after their lives have been changed, for better or worse, by the government.

I would like to think not many.
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Old 03-16-2014, 02:47 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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It would be ashamed for people who are not paying attention. Obama pushing it past elections shows he could give a damn about the American people. It's all about power and doing what HE, king Obama thinks is best.
shows he couldn't give a damn about the American people

Sorry, I had to correct that. I think Obama could, and should, give a damn - but he doesn't seem to.
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Old 03-16-2014, 03:00 PM
 
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Pelosi: Republicans “Are Wasting Their Time” Using Obamacare as an Electoral Issue (Video) | The Gateway Pundit

Translation: you are killing us with the so-called affordable care act, please stop.

Exactly

Pelosi is an idiot if she does not understand that Obamacare will probably deliver the Senate to the Republicans. Obviously she was not paying attention to the recent congressional election in Florida.
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Old 03-16-2014, 03:07 PM
 
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The gop is wasting time using the ACA as a campaign issue. Why don't they tell us what they will do for us instead.
They have, but people like you dont listen anyways.. Unless their plan involves some type of buying of your vote by taking money from someone else and giving it to you, you arent listening..
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Old 03-16-2014, 03:17 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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This poll was done by the Harvard School of Public Health.

"63% of Massachusetts residents support the health care reform legislation enacted in 2006, 21% oppose it while 6% are not sure and 9% have not heard or read about the law."

Support for Massachusetts landmark health reform law rises in 2011 | HSPH News | Harvard School of Public Health



And according to the CBO and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT),

Obamacare will "produce a net reduction in federal deficits of $143 billion over the 2010-2019 period."

Cost Estimate for Pending Health Care Legislation - CBO
Okay, so you're blending in Romneycare with Obamacare which are two entirely different things. People in Massachusetts can vote with their feet and move to another state. There's no way to get away from Obamacare. You must know the differences beginning with State and Federal mandates.

Also:
according to a recent Congressional Budget Office report, the Affordable Care Act will result in 2.5 million fewer full-time jobs by 2024. Fortunately, the CBO’s report also alludes to a possible change that would mitigate this problem — employer mandate relief by returning to the traditional definition of 40 hours a week for full-time work in the Affordable Care Act.

So the 30 hour work week will kill 2.5M jobs

and

CBO: ObamaCare Magnifies Minimum-Wage Job Losses
The Congressional Budget Office weighed in on President Obama's proposed $10.10-an-hour minimum wage, saying it could lead to job losses that range from "very slight" to "1 million."

But in a footnote, the nonpartisan number cruncher explained that near-term job loss may be higher because its analysis didn't factor in the new ObamaCare costs imposed on employers.

CBO: ObamaCare Magnifies Minimum Wage Hike Jobs Losses - Investors.com

and now the individual mandate has been mostly abandoned. If the ACA is so wonderful, why are the Dems pushing it further and further out? Something this good should be running on all cylinders out of the gate. This one has two broken legs and pig flu.


and then in Appendix C of the CBO report:
Labor Market Effects of the Affordable Care Act: Updated Estimates

- About 6 million workers and dependents will be subject to the penalty tax in 2016,
- although hourly wages for full-time jobs might be lower than those for part-time jobs (once wages adjust to the penalty), workers also would incur additional costs associated with holding more than one job at a time.
- as many as 2.9M jobs could be lost over the next year.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...62922401,d.cGU


Anything that hammers the middle class as much as this does will never save the government a dime. WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT, at least we used to be.
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Old 03-16-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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The gop is wasting time using the ACA as a campaign issue. Why don't they tell us what they will do for us instead.
In other words you want to know what the country can do for you...

My how public opinion has deteriorated in just 5 decades.

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Exactly

Pelosi is an idiot if she does not understand that Obamacare will probably deliver the Senate to the Republicans. Obviously she was not paying attention to the recent congressional election in Florida.
The DNC, as a whole, has not been "paying attention" since 2008. The GWB gig was great for the first 1-2 years, but that's run out of juice and they don't have a clue what to do now. 3 months ago Obama was a step short of begging Republicans to fix his mess.
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