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Old 03-24-2014, 07:33 PM
 
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Yeah. Hillary is undefeatable....unless the GOP can come up with a smooth talking, unexperienced jr. senator that says nice things about everyone and plays middle of the road while just generally being charming.

She's old and has no charisma.

Seriously, have you paid no attention to what wins the presidency the last 40+ years or so since TV became widespread?
Money wins it. That is all.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:33 PM
 
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They won the popular vote in 1 election in the last 6, my question is what is going to make them win this time around, what is their message, who is their candidate. I don't think people realize how lopsided it has been due to GW's two terms.
You chose 6 because it supports your point.....to uneducated morons.

What's particularily sad is that in the meantime, the dems have taken a beating in governors races and even the house....and are about to lose another 5ish seats in the Senate this year by every non-partisan polling outfit.

Even your core argument misses the key point that Obama is highly likeable. Bill Clinton....highly likeable and charismatic....even Bush the moron had folksy charm that carried him past stiff crap candidates like Gore and Kerry.

So now...you think old, stiff, unlikable (um...Obama beat her with literally zero resume) Hillary is a cakewalk?

Just walking you through the glaring holes in your argument.

I'm especially amused that the dems are assuming Hillary will even win their nomination.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:34 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Yeah. Hillary is undefeatable....unless the GOP can come up with a smooth talking, unexperienced jr. senator that says nice things about everyone and plays middle of the road while just generally being charming.

She's old and has no charisma.

Seriously, have you paid no attention to what wins the presidency the last 40+ years or so since TV became widespread?
Hillary Clinton had more popular votes in the Democratic Primary than Barack Obama did. Lets be honest here.

Barack Obama won the primary instead of Hillary Clinton because Florida and Michigan didnt fully count and because Barack Obama won the super delegates. He formed political allegiances with the Kennedys' and other political families and individuals, in short, he out organized her.

He didnt win because he was"charming".
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:35 PM
 
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Money wins it. That is all.
That's both sides. That is all.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:38 PM
 
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Hillary Clinton had more popular votes in the Democratic Primary than Barack Obama did. Lets be honest here.

Barack Obama won the primary instead of Hillary Clinton because Florida and Michigan didnt fully count and because Barack Obama won the super delegates. He formed political allegiances with the Kennedy's and other political families and individuals, in short, he out organized her.

He didnt win because he was"charming".
Let's be honest here? And then you claim Obama beat Clinton not because of charm and charisma....but because he had more political connections?

Oh god....bwah hah hah hahhah..............
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:40 PM
 
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That's both sides. That is all.
Exactly............that is why our dear president is out trying to raise every penny he can right now for the midterms...........I don't think they are doing too good. Hey Moochelle is happy though buzzing around having a grand time on our dime.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:42 PM
 
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Let's be honest here? And then you claim Obama beat Clinton not because of charm and charisma....but because he had more political connections?

Oh god....bwah hah hah hahhah..............
Dem party chose the golden boy way back when he made his speech at the convention.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:46 PM
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Let's be honest here? And then you claim Obama beat Clinton not because of charm and charisma....but because he had more political connections?

Oh god....bwah hah hah hahhah..............
I never said he had more political connections, just the right ones. But your argument was that he beat her because he was more charming.

How exactly would you even prove that , where as I can show Barack Obama's political endorsements as well as knowing that SUperdelegate votes actually count in the Democratic Party's primary.

Barack Obama won 478 Super delegates. He only won the Primary by 312.
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:09 PM
 
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Democrats throwing an 81 year old woman off the cliff

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Old 03-24-2014, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You chose 6 because it supports your point.....to uneducated morons.

What's particularily sad is that in the meantime, the dems have taken a beating in governors races and even the house....and are about to lose another 5ish seats in the Senate this year by every non-partisan polling outfit.

Even your core argument misses the key point that Obama is highly likeable. Bill Clinton....highly likeable and charismatic....even Bush the moron had folksy charm that carried him past stiff crap candidates like Gore and Kerry.

So now...you think old, stiff, unlikable (um...Obama beat her with literally zero resume) Hillary is a cakewalk?

Just walking you through the glaring holes in your argument.

I'm especially amused that the dems are assuming Hillary will even win their nomination.
Most of what you stated is irrelevant, about the only thing that matters when it comes to supreme court justices is winning presidential elections. I do agree on Clinton, the family connections in presidential elections are growing tiresome. I am sure we can do better we need new blood, that was the criticism of many republican candidates in the last election regarding the money backing a few candidates.
The polls indicate Hillary beats any candidate hands down but that can change.
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