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One result of that whole mess is that now that the US is considered at the same level as China and Russia, sympathy with Americans is severely reduced. For instance when the IS chops off yet another American's head. Now that it's bad vs bad, it is hard to be on either party's side.
One result of that whole mess is that now that the US is considered at the same level as China and Russia, sympathy with Americans is severely reduced. For instance when the IS chops off yet another American's head. Now that it's bad vs bad, it is hard to be on either party's side.
LOL...torture someone...or kill someone...that alive vs not alive...how the hell is that comparable?
According to the article you linked to, the waterboarding and violence didn't work, though sleep deprivation did (unless you think the 11,957th waterboarding would have done the trick). And his confessions didn't necessarily give anything of value to interrogators.
It was a cumulative effect. Beaten, drowned, kept awake for days and days, thats what broke him
The person I was talking to said that KSM did shut up, and never divulged information. My point was, yes he broke with this, and when he did, he wouldn't shut up
LOL...torture someone...or kill someone...that alive vs not alive...how the hell is that comparable?
Someone WAS killed, plus it doesn't make that much of a difference, anyway. Someone who beats his dog is about as bad as someone who kills his dog.
And again, when you got the reputation of a rogue state like China or Russia, you have a huge credibility problem... Sure, the problem was already there before, but now it is even bigger.
I think values are to be defended, 100% all the time without exception. Otherwise you look like someone who claims to be against domestic violence, but beats his wife because, well, because he wants her to behave the way he wants, or some other excuse like that.
It's common knowledge that Britain was teaching certain US Forces torture techniques at the Defence Intelligence and Security Centre (DISC) at Chicksands in Bedfordshire.
Furthermore the British Army's Joint Forward Intelligence Team (JFIT) were involved in torture, whilst the British island of Diego Garcia where the US operate military bases was also implicated in the torture documents.
Now that we've seen this vengeful Democrat report and the damage it has caused, we will become even more polorized.
It's a shame that America has small-minded people like Feinstein amongst us. She and her leftist collegues would be labled traitors in another time.
The world is in turmoil. We have been made weak by a President that doesn't have a clue. Just yesterday he addressed our troops and our islamist enemies and divulged our strategy in abandoning the battlefield.
It is inevitable that we will bomb Iran's nuclear projects, Russia is in turmoil, Europe is near collapse being dragged down by its socialist members, Muslims are on the rampage, and yet some here are outraged that we do whatever is neccessary to protect ourselves.
This is not a game. When the SHTF, the whiners among us will face the truth and their demise.
Fasten your seatbelt.
Someone WAS killed, plus it doesn't make that much of a difference, anyway. Someone who beats his dog is about as bad as someone who kills his dog.
And again, when you got the reputation of a rogue state like China or Russia, you have a huge credibility problem... Sure, the problem was already there before, but now it is even bigger.
Oh no....A terrorist was killed...GO FORBID....
I don't know how you can equate killing a terrorist or even using EITs, to a person who would rather cut your head off than look you in the eye?
We are no where close to russia or china...
Yes, it's bigger because the left spent $40,000,000 to throw the United States under the bus...
Congrats...the blood is in your hands!
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