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Old 04-08-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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As I said, match my quarterly tax payments then tell me we need big government. Until you match me anything you say has no basis.
I don't know why you keep refusing to answer the question. It is really quite simple: do you think ever single dollar you pay is useless? If you make more money than me, what I pay is really irrelevant and may be more of a burden than yours.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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Posts like that indicate a level of utter ignorance. Have you seen the trillions that make up our fiscal operating debt and tens of trillions that make up our unfunded liabilities?

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
Tell me when these trillions are due?
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:21 AM
 
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Tell me please, how exactly does Obamacare provide me with health care?

Forcing me to buy health insurance with a huge deductible does not provide me with health care, it provides insurance companies with premiums.
It does provide you with health care. Would you rather pay EVERYTHING out of pocket?

Your $40,000 hospital bill is going to hurt.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:23 AM
 
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I don't know why you keep refusing to answer the question. It is really quite simple: do you think ever single dollar you pay is useless? If you make more money than me, what I pay is really irrelevant and may be more of a burden than yours.
Until you pay the same amount of money to the government as me your thoughts about big government mean nothing to me.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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Until you pay the same as me your thoughts about big government mean nothing to me.
That's a terrible argument.

We both probably pay more than you. Even still, if the government is "too big" and taxes are "too much," why is Warren Buffet advocating higher taxes?
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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Until you pay the same amount of money to the government as me your thoughts about big government mean nothing to me.
Well, neither of us can know what the other pays, so this arguing in circle is pointless. Still though, you could easily answer if you think you should pay nothing to the government, and your refusal to do so speaks volumes.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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That's a terrible argument.

We both probably pay more than you. Even still, if the government is "too big" and taxes are "too much," why is Warren Buffet advocating higher taxes?
Don't be so easy lol. Dig a little deeper on Warren Buffet. You will find out Buffet is a hypocrite and his company also benefits from higher taxes.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:28 AM
 
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Well, neither of us can know what the other pays, so this arguing in circle is pointless. Still though, you could easily answer if you think you should pay nothing to the government, and your refusal to do so speaks volumes.
Can you point out where I say "pay nothing" to government?
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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Can you point out where I say "pay nothing" to government?
I didn't say you did. Rather, I asked if that's what you want. You say you pay too much, but what exactly is too much and what would be a more acceptable amount? Should your total be lower by 25%, 50%, 100%? What specifically about the amount you pay rubs you the wrong way? Isn't it just a testament that you are successful? Somebody you earns a million dollars and pays 25% is still a whole lot better off than somebody you earns $30,000 and pays 10%.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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Can you point out where I say "pay nothing" to government?
You skirt the line:

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yep. Every time I have to write a huge check to the government every quarter is when I know we need smaller government.
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