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Old 04-08-2014, 10:39 AM
 
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How else should one interpret that when you then refuse to answer why exactly you think it is too much?
Match what I pay in taxes then lets see how you feel about big government.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:40 AM
 
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You skirt the line:
You as* ume, point out where I said pay no taxes.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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It does provide you with health care. Would you rather pay EVERYTHING out of pocket?

Your $40,000 hospital bill is going to hurt.
No, I would rather if government was going to reform health care they do so by looking for ways to lower the cost of treatment rather than forcing everyone to by health insurance and spreading the still ridiculously high cost of treatment over a larger pool.
This way people would not NEED insurance so much except for maybe catastrophic illness/injury.

If someone can't afford a $10,000 deductible, what difference does having insurance make?
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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Governments exist only through violent force, whats to like about them? Or maybe one must be a masochist?
If government ceased to exist, people would stop using violent force? Where did that ever happen?
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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Match what I pay in taxes then lets see how you feel about big government.
Again, you are dodging a simple question. Your refusal tells everybody here a lot. I don't know why you are being so stubborn.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:43 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Why Do Liberals Trust The Government So Much?

WHO says there's trust?

The fact is as long as the Constitution remains in effect we will have a government.

Why do conservatives spend so much time whining about government and then go through great pains to join it and grow it like your great hero Saint Ronnie did?
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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I didn't say you did. Rather, I asked if that's what you want. You say you pay too much, but what exactly is too much and what would be a more acceptable amount? Should your total be lower by 25%, 50%, 100%? What specifically about the amount you pay rubs you the wrong way? Isn't it just a testament that you are successful? Somebody you earns a million dollars and pays 25% is still a whole lot better off than somebody you earns $30,000 and pays 10%.
lol, yet you ***** and moan about people who pay taxes on a million dollars... then you ***** because you think they should pay more. Which would you rather have, what you pay or what someone making $400k... $1 million makes pays.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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lol, yet you ***** and moan about people who pay taxes on a million dollars... then you ***** because you think they should pay more. Which would you rather have, what you pay or what someone making $400k... $1 million makes pays.
Please show where I said any of these things. You should at least debate honestly rather than building a strawman.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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Again, you are dodging a simple question. Your refusal tells everybody here a lot. I don't know why you are being so stubborn.
Again, when you pay as much as I do then we can talk about how much government costs us and why you think we should want even bigger government. Until then we aren't on the same playing field. You are probably in the kiddy park.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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Again, when you pay as much as I do then we can talk about how much government costs us and why you think we should want even bigger government. Until then we aren't on the same playing field. You are probably in the kiddy park.
It is a simple question that has nothing to do with how much either of us pays. If you can't answer it, admit that you are just arguing out of your ass. Rather than personally attacking me, why not put together a real argument? Where did I say we should want bigger government? Again, you are making up a lot of things here, pretty much just lying about everybody else and hoping nobody notices. It is the conservative way though.
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