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Old 04-12-2014, 09:01 AM
 
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Liberals are extremely two-faced when it comes to the environment.

They want unlimited immigration to fill every nook and cranny in this country and they want to keep paying poor indigent women to breed.

Americans already have reduced their birth rate to steady growth -- but no --- now the liberals have essentially eliminated the border so that the population growth rate matches many third world nations.
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Old 04-12-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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ok the climate is changing, The oceans will raise we are doomed! but so what? It's to friggin late to do anything about it. Who are you going to save it for? The millions of aborted fetuses that we produce every year? The third worlders who are quite happy living in shacks burning coal and sticks anyhow?
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Old 04-12-2014, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Thanks for posting that video.

Once again, a topic on science brings out the scientifically illiterate bottom dwellers who, on cue, start slobbering like Pavlov's dog at the mere mention of climate change.

One thing America leads the world in besides fossil fuel emissions is scientific illiteracy. If you want to see this in action just visit any thread on climate change.
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Old 04-12-2014, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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New statistical analysis suggests -- with 99 percent certainty -- that the planet is not warming as a result of natural causes.

Instead of relying on complex mathematical models to predict the future effects of greenhouse gases, McGill University physics professor Shaun Lovejoy decided to test the plausibility of climate skeptics' contention that global warming is a natural process.

“This study will be a blow to any remaining climate-change deniers,” Lovejoy said. “Their two most convincing arguments -- that the warming is natural in origin, and that the computer models are wrong -- are either directly contradicted by this analysis, or simply do not apply to it.”

Is global warming just a giant natural fluctuation? | Research and International Relations - McGill University

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Old 04-12-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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First, let me state that I am NOT a "climate change denier"!
Now, my questions for the "climate change proponents":
WHY, if what the doom and gloom sayers are right, is NO government anywhere on this planet doing ANYTHING to cope with the inevitable changes "they" say will happen, that will kill us all off?
WHY are there no shoreline modifications being built to accommodate the predicted rising sea levels?
WHY are there no irrigation projects being built to compensate for the predicted droughts?
WHY are there no projects being built to take water from areas where there is a surplus (as in regular flooding) and move it to areas where there is a shortage?
WHY are there no desalinization plants being built to take advantage of the nearly inexhaustible supply of water in the oceans?
WHY is there no planning to move agriculture from areas that will dry up to areas that will thaw and become viable ag land?
IMO, the answers to the above (and many other similar questions) is obvious: THEY know all the doom and gloom predictions are fallacious, so nothing really needs to be done!
What IS the truth of the matter? We will probably never know, THEY will never admit to anything!
because the truth is that nature rules over everything, and that our current round of climate change is in fact natural, and has been for 4.5 billion years.

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Thanks for posting that video.

Once again, a topic on science brings out the scientifically illiterate bottom dwellers who, on cue, start slobbering like Pavlov's dog at the mere mention of climate change.

One thing America leads the world in besides fossil fuel emissions is scientific illiteracy. If you want to see this in action just visit any thread on climate change.
yeah it is amazing that the alarmists bring out the celebrities isnt it? anything they can do to try and lend credence to their lies.

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New statistical analysis suggests -- with 99 percent certainty -- that the planet is not warming as a result of natural causes.

Instead of relying on complex mathematical models to predict the future effects of greenhouse gases, McGill University physics professor Shaun Lovejoy decided to test the plausibility of climate skeptics' contention that global warming is a natural process.

“This study will be a blow to any remaining climate-change deniers,†Lovejoy said. “Their two most convincing arguments -- that the warming is natural in origin, and that the computer models are wrong -- are either directly contradicted by this analysis, or simply do not apply to it.â€

Is global warming just a giant natural fluctuation? | Research and International Relations - McGill University

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oh how cute, they used a picture of a polar bear on an ice flow. i also note that they only went back 100 years for this study, are they afraid of what they may find if they go back further, like 10,000 years? or 2 million years?
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Old 04-12-2014, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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because the truth is that nature rules over everything, and that our current round of climate change is in fact natural, and has been for 4.5 billion years.



yeah it is amazing that the alarmists bring out the celebrities isnt it? anything they can do to try and lend credence to their lies.



oh how cute, they used a picture of a polar bear on an ice flow. i also note that they only went back 100 years for this study, are they afraid of what they may find if they go back further, like 10,000 years? or 2 million years?
Fail reading in grammar school? "Using temperature data collected from 1500 onward, Lovejoy crunched the numbers,"
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Old 04-12-2014, 12:52 PM
 
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Fail reading in grammar school? "Using temperature data collected from 1500 onward, Lovejoy crunched the numbers,"
alright, so he went back 1500 years, that is still a blip in geologic time. even ten thousand years barely registers, but would have been much better than a mere 1500 years. look back at the various graphs i have posted that go back 400,000 years, two million years, 65 million years. these graphs have much more information, and can show a proper trend in geological terms, which by the way shows a general cooling trend over 65 million years.
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Old 04-12-2014, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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alright, so he went back 1500 years, that is still a blip in geologic time. even ten thousand years barely registers, but would have been much better than a mere 1500 years. look back at the various graphs i have posted that go back 400,000 years, two million years, 65 million years. these graphs have much more information, and can show a proper trend in geological terms, which by the way shows a general cooling trend over 65 million years.
Let know when you have watched the video, and read the information I provided, then we can talk....The graphs you have posted have no relationship to conditions prevailing today.
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Old 04-12-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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Likely has one sided as most so called documentaries now days. on political issues of present.
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Old 04-12-2014, 01:16 PM
 
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If it's on Showtime it must be true. Especially if Conan the Republican produced it. The latest IPCC report dropped most of the 2007 version's sensationalist scenarios about droughts, storms, flooding, etc. It isn't happening. They also scaled back the sensitivity of temperature change to CO2 change. And for the last 15 or so years there has been no observable global warming (which is why it's now referred to as climate change).

Climate model predictions have been wildly inaccurate. They consistently predict temperatures shooting off the scale. But then it never happens. But they never adjust for this, just come out with new crazy temperature predictions a year later. Probably because they're physics based models: if you add CO2 to the air, what does physics say will happen? But the don't adjust for what has actually happened. They are clearly missing some mitigating reactions or negative feedbacks but the money is in scary predictions, so they keep doing what they're rewarded for.
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