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Originally Posted by RogersParkGuy
Can you explain what you are including under "left wing ideologies?" Can you define what you mean by relevant? Can you explain in what sense they have been "proven" to be failures? Can you define what you mean by "failures?" Can you define what you mean by "countless areas of life and of the world?"
In short, can you at least try to ask a minimally coherent question before expecting an answer?
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Communism
Socialism
Marxism
American Progressiveism(which by default is Progressive Marxism or Regressive Statism)
Neo Con Republicans
Relevant is the meaning that they are still popular and are seen as a benefit when in reality the are the cause of or a great amplifier of poverty, crime, and tyranny.
They (IE those who for what ever reason support these ideal or ideologues for any number of reason mostly ignorance stupidity, envy, or victimization complex ect) some how believe that if the just try it at a different level of speed or intensity that some how a failed system will work, that basic laws of economics and human nature will so how be over ridden or be bent to their native, emotionalism view of how the world
should be instead of how the world really is and really works...
They failed in the following way
They imploded under the weight of the unfundable obligations due in large part to confiscation of capital due to high taxes and predatory regulatory state designed to make people dependent on the state and hindered intervention and entrepreneurial endeavor which caused them to either not both in the first place(completely understandable) leave(once again understandable) or just not both in the first place(completely understandable yet very very very sad)
Disarmed that people living in that nation..
Then after they were disarmed.
Resorted to measure which stolen land and private property from the people that lived under such a system.
Created a police state they restricted the most basic of freedoms(privacy free speech. free press, descent, ect)
Those arrest for the just writing in the private journals about such ideas as freedom and privacy were arrest, some shot,other most by far are use as slave labor a great deal of them worked to death...
So in short
The loss of arms
The loss of private property
The loss of freedoms
The loss of ability to keep the fruits of ones labor..
RIGHT TO WRONG
WEALTH TO DEBT
PROSPERITY TO POVERTY
SELF RESILIENCE TO DEPENDENCE
FREEDOM TO ENSLAVEMENT
LIBERTY TO TYRANNY
That and killing millions of people in acts of genocide and demoicde, and leaving hundreds of millions if not a few billion impoverished, hoping a failed system that rewards and subsidizes failure..
Proven areas of failures past and current
The Soviet Union
North Korea
Cuba
Venezuela
Chile(until General Augusto Pinochet did what had to be done)
Argentina
South Africa
Brazil
Just to name a few
The areas of our lives in the nation and how leftism has failed, here are some of the failures...
1.Border Security-Why in the name of Christ is this day and age do we not have a border fence across the whole border, fences work else were in the world, the will work here the only object to this is the simply fact is they know it will and refuse to allow use logical measure to be taken. Why? The most likely case is they need a massive influx of entitlement voters with collectivist ideologies seemlier to their own(leftist views are general the same albeit just differently levels of intensity of stupidity and emotionalism), create a great deal of non racism(non racism is created racism from nothing for political benefit) and then try and take the high ground calling all who favor logic, reason, and the rule of law to be enforced(blindly enforced mind you) a racist.
Amnesty would mean that up to 20,000,000 illegals could get citizenship, and due to chain migration could mean up to 40,000,000 additional people come into this nation, many of the low to non skilled, creating a massive strain on the entitlement system which is over taxed as it is. Politically it would mean the massive surge in favor of limited government, low taxes, secure border ect, would be drowned out by a Tsunami of collectivistic voters imported by leftist because they will vote for the same failed polices that killed their home nations...
According to a Harris poll, 81 percent of native-born citizens think the schools should teach students to be proud of being American.
proud of being American Only 50 percent of naturalized U.S. citizens do.
While 67 percent of native-born Americans believe our Constitution is a higher legal authority than
international law,
only 37 percent of naturalized citizens agree.
No wonder they vote 2-1 for the Democrats.
The two largest immigrant groups, Hispanics and Asians, have
little in common economically, culturally or historically. But they both overwhelmingly
support big government,[/url=Obamacare,http://www.vdare.com/articles/anti-model-minority-leftists-inventing-an-anti-white-pan-asian-identity] affirmative action and
gun control
Also surprising, a Pew Research Center poll of
all Hispanics, immigrant and citizen alike, found that Hispanics take a dimmer view of capitalism than even people who describe themselves as "liberal Democrats." While 47 percent of self-described "liberal Democrats" hold a
negative view of capitalism,
55 percent of Hispanics do.
Pew also found that only 27 percent of
Hispanics support gun rights, compared to 57 percent of non-Hispanic whites. According to large majorities of Hispanics favor a
national database of gun owners, limiting the capacity of magazines and a ban on semiautomatic weapons.
Seventy-five percent of
Hispanic immigrants and 55 percent of
Asian immigrants support bigger government—also according to Pew. Even after three generations in America, Hispanics still support bigger government 55 percent to 36 percent, compared to the general public, which opposes bigger government 48 percent to 41 percent.
How are Conservatives Republicans' going to square that circle? It's not their position on amnesty that immigrants don't like; it's Conservatives Republicans' support for
small government, gun rights, patriotism, the Constitution and capitalism.
Reading these statistics, does anyone wonder why Democrats think vastly increasing immigration should be the nation's No. 1 priority?
They have to import millions of voters to stack the deck, so they can "Cast ballots Americans are not willing to cost, to elect candidates Americans are not willing to elect, to support leftist ideologies Americans overwhelming reject"
It would be one thing if the people with these views already lived here. Republicans would have no right to say, "You can't vote." But why on Earth are they bringing in people sworn to their political destruction?
Republicans have no obligation to assist the Democrats as they change the country in a way that favors them electorally, particularly when it does great harm to the people already here.
Yes, it's great for the most powerful Americans to have lots of cheap, unskilled labor. Immigration definitely solves the rich's "servant problem." Never mind that robots will be a very very very cheap solution to their wants and whims, and they don't steal or file sexual harassment lawsuits against you(Not that I would know such things)
(Approximately 5 million times a day, MSNBC expresses bewilderment that any Republicans oppose amnesty when it's supported by the Chamber of Commerce. Wow! So even people who profit by flooding the country with cheap labor are in favor of flooding the country with cheap labor!)
It's terrific for ethnic lobbyists whose political clout will skyrocket the more foreign-born Americans we have.
And it's fantastic for the Democrats, who are well on their way to a permanent majority, so they can completely destroy the last remnants of what was once known as "the land of the free."
The only ones opposed to our current immigration policies are the people.
We are seeing how badly it has effected this nation and we are taking action to stop it.
Look what they did to
California in less then a decade
This will not happen, they will never pass amnesty and if they do...Well when a massive group of people are disenfranchised and they soon realize they the political and legal system is rigged against them they soon realize the violence is the only course of action left.
2. Taxes-We have a tax code that is more the 40,000 pages long, that does nothing but allow for the aiding of businesses with contribute to politicians actions and campaigns with no seemingly interconnecting ties, the harming of exiting businesses, and the stifling of existing completion and the prevention of future competition.
Why leftist think that punished success is some how going to create this myth of equality is a mystery, must its just application of child like emotionalism to adult issues.
We could have a a simply fair tax which would eliminate 99.999999 of tax loopholes and could easily have some modification and reduction of the Federal Government could fund the federal government while making America the best place in the world to start a business in or move a business to..Instead we let emotionalism and opinions prevent us from having tax system that does what a tax system should do, raise revenue based on the most logical system, not on spite and envy and emotionalism..
Education-America and its education system is failing or in some schools in some cities has long since failed. Mostly due to the factors of bad lesson plans, under performing teachers, disruptive students in class, short of class rooms, ect the list goes on and on, and on, and on, and on..and so do the excuse with is overwhelming the same every school and distinct over "We don't have enough money".
Which on its face is a lie, a great deal of funds are waste on administrator, bureaucrats, and flat out fraud.
A Charter school system fund in full via a voucher system would reward schools and lesson plans and their content in a market were the students benefit via freedom many choices and the parents get the ultimate say on where their kids go. Bad teachers are fired, the unions are kicked to the curb, costs plummet, value and content skyrocket and the educational industry creates wealth and jobs were their was just mindless regulation, stagnation, and failure..
Gun Control-Need I say more? I don't but I will.
The idea that some how limiting freedom of the choice of arms will some how correct the many problems in that nation is just laughable on it face
Criminals by their very definition do not obey the laws, they do not obey the 22,000 plus gun laws in the nation already, do you think that they will obey any of the mind numbly idiotic laws the left has proposed?
Never mind cities in states with the most restrict laws have the highest violent crime rates, which are control by progressive statist and their failed economic plans of tax and spend and spend some and make the business pay for it, which always works out sooo well, Detroit, Newark, Trenton, Flint, Stockton ect
Never mind the fact that more people are killed with hammers and fist then AR15 and other rifles..
Never mind Barrack Obama has killed more children in drone strikes then die in school shoot one far more preventable then the other.
Never mind that crime is a 50 year all time low.
Never mind that fact that death involving firearms are such a small percentage of over all deaths in America.
Instead of finding fault with the 2nd Amendment and law abiding citizens, find fault with the failed economical polices that created poverty such as polices and regulations the harm and prevent business and failed schools, and punishing criminals who break the law, not law abiding citizens who are over whelming law abiding for the crime, which as the info above proves is falling due in large to CCW permit holders and castle and stand your ground laws....