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Old 05-14-2014, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The original link by the OP came from come blogger called TownHall, not Judicial Watch with their own editorial comments. This is the link to JL.

[CENTER]May 9, 2013, email reveals IRS plans to meet with Department of Justice over whether to prosecute groups that “lied” about plans for political activity [/CENTER]
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released a new batch of internal IRS documents revealing that former IRS official Lois Lerner communicated with the Department of Justice (DOJ) about whether it was possible to criminally prosecute certain tax-exempt entities. The documents were obtained as a result of an October 2013 Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed against the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) after the agency refused to respond to four FOIA requests dating back to May 2013.
.....following:
Democratic Rhode Island Senator Sheldon Whitehouse had held a hearing on April 9during which, “in questioning the witnesses from DOJ and IRS, Whitehouse asked why they have not prosecuted 501(c)(4) groups that have seemingly made false statements about their political activities.” Lerner described the impetus for this hearing in a March 27, 2013, email to top IRS staff:
As I mentioned yesterday — there are several groups of folks from the FEC world that are pushing tax fraud prosecution for c4s who report they are not conducting political activity when they are (or these folks think they are). One is my ex-boss Larry Noble (former General Counsel at the FEC), who is now president of Americans for Campaign Reform. This is their latest push to shut these down. One IRS prosecution would make an impact and they wouldn’t feel so comfortable doing the stuff.
So, don’t be fooled about how this is being articulated – it is ALL about 501(c)(4) orgs and political activity
JW Obtains IRS Documents Showing Lerner in Contact With DOJ about Potential Prosecution of Tax-Exempt Groups | Judicial Watch
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:43 PM
 
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Give it up.

If anyone actually wanted to know what happened you give Lerner immunity. Then she talks. I don't think any Repub has decided that Lerner is the evil genius behind all this and has to go to jail. So the likely reason that no immunity is they don't want to hear from her.

Simple as that.
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:47 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Do you have a link?
So you want a link that proves your unsubstantiated post wrong.

No problem


In May 2011, Drew Ryun, a conservative activist and former Republican National Committee staffer, began filling out the Internal Revenue Service application to achieve nonprofit status for a new conservative watchdog group.

He submitted the paperwork to the IRS in July 2011 for a research site called Media Trackers, which calls itself a "non-partisan investigative watchdog dedicated to promoting accountability in the media and government." Although the site has investigated Republicans like Ohio Gov. John Kasich and Florida Gov. Rick Scott, the site's organizers are unapologetically conservative.

"One thing we don't hide is: 'Yeah, we're conservative—free-market, free-enterprise, full-spectrum conservative,'" Ryun told Mother Jones magazine last year.

Eight months passed without word from the agency about the group's application, Ryun said. In February 2012, Ryun's attorney contacted the IRS to ask if it needed more information to secure its nonprofit status as a 501(c)3 organization. According to Ryun, the IRS told him that the application was being processed by the agency's office in Cincinnati, Ohio—the same one currently facing scrutiny for targeting conservative groups—and to check back in two months.

As directed, Ryun followed up with the IRS in April 2012, and was told that Media Trackers' application was still under review.

When September 2012 arrived with still no word from the IRS, Ryun determined that Media Trackers would likely never obtain standalone nonprofit status, and he tried a new approach: He applied for permanent nonprofit status for a separate group called Greenhouse Solutions, a pre-existing organization that was reaching the end of its determination period.

The IRS approved Greenhouse Solutions' request for permanent nonprofit status in three weeks.

Conservative group says IRS approved nonprofit status after applying with
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:47 PM
 
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Well show us what you have other than innuendo, show us some specifics. Instead of addressing the real issues with 501c4's forever the whining about conservative groups being targeted as if that is the largest problems.
Should I use Tea Party websites?
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:57 PM
 
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So you want a link that proves your unsubstantiated post wrong.

No problem


In May 2011, Drew Ryun, a conservative activist and former Republican National Committee staffer, began filling out the Internal Revenue Service application to achieve nonprofit status for a new conservative watchdog group.

He submitted the paperwork to the IRS in July 2011 for a research site called Media Trackers, which calls itself a "non-partisan investigative watchdog dedicated to promoting accountability in the media and government." Although the site has investigated Republicans like Ohio Gov. John Kasich and Florida Gov. Rick Scott, the site's organizers are unapologetically conservative.

"One thing we don't hide is: 'Yeah, we're conservative—free-market, free-enterprise, full-spectrum conservative,'" Ryun told Mother Jones magazine last year.

Eight months passed without word from the agency about the group's application, Ryun said. In February 2012, Ryun's attorney contacted the IRS to ask if it needed more information to secure its nonprofit status as a 501(c)3 organization. According to Ryun, the IRS told him that the application was being processed by the agency's office in Cincinnati, Ohio—the same one currently facing scrutiny for targeting conservative groups—and to check back in two months.

As directed, Ryun followed up with the IRS in April 2012, and was told that Media Trackers' application was still under review.

When September 2012 arrived with still no word from the IRS, Ryun determined that Media Trackers would likely never obtain standalone nonprofit status, and he tried a new approach: He applied for permanent nonprofit status for a separate group called Greenhouse Solutions, a pre-existing organization that was reaching the end of its determination period.

The IRS approved Greenhouse Solutions' request for permanent nonprofit status in three weeks.

Conservative group says IRS approved nonprofit status after applying with
Comeon. Complete different. 501(c)(3) not (c)(4). That is a known and difficult approval cycle and these two operations were in entirely different status.

I would also note you stopped quoting your source as they explained that. So a little devious as well?
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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No group was denied their rights, some had more review but all except a few were allowed 501c4 status pending a final determination.
ROTFLMAO!! Seriously 😂 What about the audits the folks trying to get the status received? Can't wait to hear this one.
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Old 05-15-2014, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by shooting4life View Post
So you want a link that proves your unsubstantiated post wrong.

No problem


In May 2011, Drew Ryun, a conservative activist and former Republican National Committee staffer, began filling out the Internal Revenue Service application to achieve nonprofit status for a new conservative watchdog group.

He submitted the paperwork to the IRS in July 2011 for a research site called Media Trackers, which calls itself a "non-partisan investigative watchdog dedicated to promoting accountability in the media and government." Although the site has investigated Republicans like Ohio Gov. John Kasich and Florida Gov. Rick Scott, the site's organizers are unapologetically conservative.

"One thing we don't hide is: 'Yeah, we're conservative—free-market, free-enterprise, full-spectrum conservative,'" Ryun told Mother Jones magazine last year.

Eight months passed without word from the agency about the group's application, Ryun said. In February 2012, Ryun's attorney contacted the IRS to ask if it needed more information to secure its nonprofit status as a 501(c)3 organization. According to Ryun, the IRS told him that the application was being processed by the agency's office in Cincinnati, Ohio—the same one currently facing scrutiny for targeting conservative groups—and to check back in two months.

As directed, Ryun followed up with the IRS in April 2012, and was told that Media Trackers' application was still under review.

When September 2012 arrived with still no word from the IRS, Ryun determined that Media Trackers would likely never obtain standalone nonprofit status, and he tried a new approach: He applied for permanent nonprofit status for a separate group called Greenhouse Solutions, a pre-existing organization that was reaching the end of its determination period.

The IRS approved Greenhouse Solutions' request for permanent nonprofit status in three weeks.

Conservative group says IRS approved nonprofit status after applying with

The applications were not identical, There are inconsistencies in any bureaucracy, if the same application was submitted under the same name I would say that's a problem.

from your link:

Quote:
The reason for the difference in timing could have nothing to do with the
group's name. Greenhouse Solutions was applying for "permanent" nonprofit status
after existing as a nonprofit group for some time. Media Trackers, a new group,
was just beginning the first steps in the application process. Having a previous
file with the IRS could very well have been the reason Greenhouse's application
was approved so quickly.
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Old 05-15-2014, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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ROTFLMAO!! Seriously �� What about the audits the folks trying to get the status received? Can't wait to hear this one.
Never indicated they were not reviewed, most received their status while they were underway.
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Old 05-15-2014, 06:41 AM
 
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If Obama Administration was Republican and those targeted by the IRS were liberal or Democratic Party supporters, this would have been the breaking news every night on the evening news, head story on the morning news shows, and headlines on local papers across the country. But since this is Democratic Party targeting conservative opponents, just like with Bill Clinton, they're trying to make this story disappear.
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Old 05-15-2014, 06:51 AM
 
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Just like Benghazi the O supporters come back with, "We have had all these hearings and there is nothing there.

So, I repeat myself, WHY weren't THESE documents given to Congress as they were requested?

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