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It doesn't change the fact many people like myself see it as a religious institution.
OK. YOU can have your religious marriage, and I can have a legal civil marriage. No one is forcing you to have a civil marriage license, and no one will force me to have a religious marriage.
Would those who support "marriage equality" back away from their position?
I'm speaking hypothetically. If you're going to respond with "the vast majority of scientists say people ARE born gay and sexual orientation is not a choice," no need to respond. I already know.
If you would still support gay marriage despite a scientific revelation, what are your reasons?
Yes, because the question of whether homosexuality is a choice is irrelevant. There is nothing wrong with being gay. If every gay person consciously chose to be, not allowing them to marry would still be discrimination.
Yes, because the question of whether homosexuality is a choice is irrelevant. There is nothing wrong with being gay. If every gay person consciously chose to be, not allowing them to marry would still be discrimination.
So how does it come about that people choose to indulge in homosexuality? Do they give straight sex a try to see how good that feels? And then they give gay sex a try to see how good that feels. And conclude they gotta choose to be gay, because having gay sex feels wilder and better?
This a very strange remark. I well remember the first time I had sexual feelings for another person. Don't you? Did you wake up one morning and think to yourself that you were just going to pick a person to go weak in the knees over? It hit me like a ton of bricks, and if deciding had anything to do with it, I'd have decided to not have those feelings, I would have passed it up, there was no way this person was ever going to be interested in me. I had to suffer through several more episodes before I finally had those feelings for someone who also had them for me.
I'm as straight as they come. I'm also human, and I have no trouble imagining why gay people want to marry the person they've fallen in love with.
Would those who support "marriage equality" back away from their position?
I'm speaking hypothetically. If you're going to respond with "the vast majority of scientists say people ARE born gay and sexual orientation is not a choice," no need to respond. I already know.
If you would still support gay marriage despite a scientific revelation, what are your reasons?
I find this to be an odd question. What relevance does the cause of homosexuality have on whether or not homosexual people should be allowed to marry?
The acts of homosexuality are a choice. Who they are, is not. I use to think differently. Seriously, you can look at some of them and just tell. Many, have the look.
I agree with you. Don't let the haters get you down. It's been proven that there are differences in the brains between gay men and straight men. It's not surprising that they would look a little different on the outside as well.
What scam? The ones doing the scamming are the straights that want to keep tax payer subsidized marriage only to themselves. Gays and straights all pay for marriage, yet gays are denied access to it. Gays do not get a tax break for being gay. Marriage in its legal sense is secular, not religious. No religious marriage grants a couple the 1049 federal rights, protections and benefits, only secular marrriage does that. The religious right just does not like it that they are not granted control over marriage and who can or cannot marry. We are a secular nation, not a theocracy and no religion or church has the right to control marriage, only the government does.
Then you have a civil union, not a marriage. Marriage is a religious institution. But gays want to be "married" because in their eyes, equality means forcing society to accept their union as being just as natural and normal as the marriage of a man and a woman.
Holy matrimony is a religious institution, marriage is a federally backed civil contract and those 1049 rights cannot be had with a religious marriage, only a civil marriage.. Gays want to be married for those 1049 rights, protections and benefits that cannot be had with civil unions, domestic partnerships or any kind of purchased legal mumbo jumbo from an attorney.
Many denominations of Christianity do. Most of Judaism does. Don't think Buddhism has much of an issue with it.
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