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Old 06-02-2014, 12:10 PM
 
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And if you removed the places where the most gun crimes happened from the European markets, we'd be back at #1.
It doesn't strike you as strange that our gun related crime looks out of control because of basically 5-6 liberal dominated cities?
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:15 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It doesn't strike you as strange that our gun related crime looks out of control because of basically 5-6 liberal dominated cities?
Here's the thing... liberals react to everything emotionally, not logically or intellectually. There should be no surprise whatsoever that an area dominated by emotionally reactionary liberals has a high rate of crime. Many are crimes of passion.
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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Here's the thing... liberals react to everything emotionally, not logically or intellectually. There should be no surprise whatsoever that an area dominated by emotionally reactionary liberals has a high rate of crime. Many are crimes of passion.
Excellent point.

Typical liberal logic: Hey, someone got addicted to drugs, couldn't finish college, now they can only get a job working at Burger King for $8 an hour. That's unfair! We should raise the minimum wage to $22.50 an hour and tax hard working business owners and other high wage owners because they can afford it!

and the liberals wonder why all of their cities fill up Top 10 list like this, broken down slums, without any job base, full of welfare recipients and illegals just scraping by.
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:54 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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There is a huge issue with racial barriers in cities with higher crime rates that has nothing to do with politics or gun laws.

Then what is the factor that makes some cities violent and some cities the utopia all people yearn for?

It is not gun control issues, Chicago and DC blow that theory.
Is it the Male / Female ratios?
Is it religion, or lack of the morals religion brings to the table?
Is it the thug culture that hits it and quits it as a badge of honor?


Sure anyone can say it isn't. The hard thing to do once that is said... Telling the truth of what it is then.
Don't look too hard, or you will go color blind, for the sake of being called a racist.
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Old 06-02-2014, 01:00 PM
 
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Excellent point.

Typical liberal logic: Hey, someone got addicted to drugs, couldn't finish college, now they can only get a job working at Burger King for $8 an hour. That's unfair! We should raise the minimum wage to $22.50 an hour and tax hard working business owners and other high wage owners because they can afford it!

and the liberals wonder why all of their cities fill up Top 10 list like this, broken down slums, without any job base, full of welfare recipients and illegals just scraping by.
You keep ignoring the fact the liberal cities you despise also fill up desirable top ten lists.

The safest cities list has already been posted, but just for kicks let's look at other top ten lists.

Education:

The Most Educated Places In America - Forbes

1. Bethesda, MD
2. Palo Alto, CA
3. Wellesley, MA
4. Brookline, MA
5. Potomac, MD
6. Needham, MA
7. Cupertino, CA
8. Upper Arlington, OH
9. Westport, CT
10. Newton, MA

I don't have a least educated list by city, so here it is by state.

America

Most educated by state:

1. Massachusetts
2. Maryland
3. Colorado
4. Connecticut
5. Vermont
6. New Jersey
7. Virginia
8. New Hampshire
9. New York
10. Minnesota

Least:

1. West Virginia
2. Mississippi
3. Arkansas
4. Kentucky
5. Louisiana
6. Alabama
7. Nevada
8. Indiana
9. Tennessee
10. Oklahoma

Income:

America’s Richest (and Poorest) Cities - 24/7 Wall St.

Highest:
1. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, Calif.
2. Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, D.C.-Va.-Md.-W.Va.
3. Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, Conn.
4. San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, Calif.
5. Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, Mass.-N.H.
6. Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, Calif.
7. Anchorage, Alaska
8.Honolulu, Hawaii
9. Manchester-Nashua, N.H.
10. Napa, Calif.

Lowest:
1. Brownsville-Harlingen, Texas
2. Dalton, Ga.
3. McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, Texas
4. Gadsden, Ala.
5. Lake Havasu City-Kingman, Ariz.
6. Albany, Ga.
7. Monroe, La.
8. Cumberland, Md.-W.Va.
9. Fort Smith, Ark.-Okla.
10. Pine Bluff, Ark.
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Old 06-02-2014, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Miami (only recently with a republican Mayor)


Also note that Giuliani was Republican (New York City) and presided over one of the biggest drops in overall crime by any major city in the U.S until he left office in 2001.
He entered office in 1994 at that point the crack epidemic was dying down so the crime rate had already started to drop and also the economy had started to finally pick up. So it was easy for Giuliani to take all the credit.
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:11 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You keep ignoring the fact the liberal cities you despise also fill up desirable top ten lists.

The safest cities list has already been posted, but just for kicks let's look at other top ten lists.

Education...
You're not quantifying or qualifying what you mean by "education."

How is "education" a desirable trait when it looks like this:

The Number of Ph.D.s on Public Aid Triples in U.S. - ABC News

That's the only group that saw such an extreme increase in public aid dependency.
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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It doesn't strike you as strange that our gun related crime looks out of control because of basically 5-6 liberal dominated cities?
Our gun-related crimes look out of control even when you leave out those cities.

According to the stats, our "safe" cities are just as bad as European "dangerous" cities when it comes to gun crime, and significantly worse than European "safe" cities.
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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You're not quantifying "education."

How is "education" a desirable trait when it looks like this:

The Number of Ph.D.s on Public Aid Triples in U.S. - ABC News
Because it looks like this.

Earnings and unemployment rates by educational attainment

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Old 06-02-2014, 02:24 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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You're not quantifying or qualifying what you mean by "education."

How is "education" a desirable trait when it looks like this:

The Number of Ph.D.s on Public Aid Triples in U.S. - ABC News

That's the only group that saw such an extreme increase in public aid dependency.
Are you saying areas with lower levels of education are better? Or that not having an education is desirable compared to being educated?

I mean, I know it is part of the conservative party platform and all but for someone to outright say "Well, who cares about education" is still pretty shocking.
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