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Old 06-13-2014, 07:37 AM
 
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And most also support a pathway to citizenship for those who came here illegally. So what's your point?
Really? I know many people that want a pathway to citizenship....and most if not all have a family and or friends that are here illegally.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:37 AM
 
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Two separate polls say the same thing.

Both from groups that are pro-amnesty.

Even saying the main gripe was him pandering to big business is saying the same thing. Big business wants amnesty to drive down wages.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:38 AM
 
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Deportations are higher under Obama than under Bush.
I am not sure.

I know many people who have gotten their notice.....and that is all that happens.....they are still here.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:38 AM
 
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Deportations are higher under Obama than under Bush.
Not at all true. Obama himself has assured the illegals that he's not deporting them, he doesn't want them deported and that now "deportation" means just those who are stopped at the border -- and he told them he doesn't believe in that either.

Thousands of very impoverished illegals are coming over every day. Obama is not deporting them.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:40 AM
 
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Both from groups that are pro-amnesty.

Even saying the main gripe was him pandering to big business is saying the same thing. Big business wants amnesty to drive down wages.
Which immigration plan actually has amnesty? I missed that one.

Also, Zuckerberg hired a polling firm to conduct the poll. Unless you can actually prove the data is incorrect, you don't have a point considering other polls done by reputable polling firms are saying the same thing.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:42 AM
 
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Not at all true. Obama himself has assured the illegals that he's not deporting them, he doesn't want them deported and that now "deportation" means just those who are stopped at the border -- and he told them he doesn't believe in that either.

Thousands of very impoverished illegals are coming over every day. Obama is not deporting them.
Has Barack Obama deported more people than any other president in U.S. history? | PolitiFact
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:42 AM
 
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And most also support a pathway to citizenship for those who came here illegally. So what's your point?
Every legal immigrant has a path to citizenship . Every illegal should be expelled from the country
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:42 AM
 
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Which immigration plan actually has amnesty? I missed that one.

Also, Zuckerberg hired a polling firm to conduct the poll. Unless you can actually prove the data is incorrect, you don't have a point considering other polls done by reputable polling firms are saying the same thing.
Obama's plan is most definitely an amnesty -- and for many crimes. Is Obama going to make illegals who have been here 20 years and who have never paid into social security tax pay up all back taxes? I didn't think so. And what about the millions of illegals who have been committing felony document fraud and identity theft? Will at least that scum be deported? And those who have been mooching by getting food stamps and Medicaid for their children born here? Can't we at least deport the welfare types?
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:44 AM
 
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Obama's plan is most definitely an amnesty -- and for many crimes. Is Obama going to make illegals who have been here 20 years and who have never paid into social security tax pay up all back taxes? I didn't think so. And what about the millions of illegals who have been committing felony document fraud and identity theft? Will at least that scum be deported? And those who have been mooching by getting food stamps and Medicaid for their children born here? Can't we at least deport the welfare types?
The actual definition of the word amnesty disagrees.

Amnesty | Define Amnesty at Dictionary.com
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:46 AM
 
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I keep hearing the conventional wisdom about how Eric Cantor's immigration stance was what doomed his chance at reelection and now immigration reform is dead. Then the data came in and that conventional wisdom from the media, DC, and the tea party is wrong.

Poll: Immigration didn
No. I was from Virginia and have a nephew there that I visit regularly. Most of the people I talk to do not want amnesty. Period.

You can cloak it in any language you want but the bottom line is no amnesty. Especially now that there is a mad dash to come north.

That alone sunk Cantor's reelection bid. By a huge margin. Why do you think that shook D.C? Notice no one now is talking amnesty. At least for the foreseeable future.

Proof positive that the politicians are completely disconnected from their constituents.
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