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Old 07-09-2014, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Just don't get married, makes life much simpler
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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Yes, I know so many women who are looking to not get married now because of what you said. After all, we all know the only reason why people were getting married ever is because of tax breaks.
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:27 AM
 
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The numbers break out like this: a single person who makes above $45,960 per year will not qualify for any tax breaks and married couples making above $62,040 don’t qualify. Do you see where the problem lies with those numbers? $62,040 is NOT double $45,960.

So, if you have one member of a married couple making $30,000 a year and the other making $40,000 a year, NEITHER of them will get any ObamaCare subsidies because their total income is $70,000 which is higher than the $62,040 cutoff.

Yet if they got divorced and still lived together, BOTH of them would qualify for subsidies. The amount in subsidies we are talking about are not trivial either as they could add up to as much as $10,000 or so.

ObamaCare Marriage Penalty – Get Divorced So You Can Get A Subsidy
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:30 AM
 
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Yes, I know so many women who are looking to not get married now because of what you said. After all, we all know the only reason why people were getting married ever is because of tax breaks.
Financial problems is a huge reason why people end up divorced. Gotta love laws that add to the financial stress
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:31 AM
 
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You mean qualifies for subsidies. You can qualify for the ACA no matter what your income level is. The subsidies however are based off the FPL.
I don't know what you mean. Yes she qualifies and yes she gets it. Her income this year will be roughly $15K and her subsidy is $220 per month.
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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It also depends where the income is, who mnakes more, etc.


For example a couple with one person making $60,000, the other making $40,000. No kids taking the standard deduction


They would have paid $12,483 combined in 2013 if they were both single ($8,429 and $4,054) however it would be $11,858 if married,

If the breakout was $75,000 and $25,000. They would pay $12,179 and $1,804 for a total of $13,983 if single, with the same $11,858 if married


If the breakout was $50,000 each it would be $5,929 each and totaling the same $11,858 if married
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:33 AM
 
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The numbers break out like this: a single person who makes above $45,960 per year will not qualify for any tax breaks and married couples making above $62,040 don’t qualify. Do you see where the problem lies with those numbers? $62,040 is NOT double $45,960.

So, if you have one member of a married couple making $30,000 a year and the other making $40,000 a year, NEITHER of them will get any ObamaCare subsidies because their total income is $70,000 which is higher than the $62,040 cutoff.

Yet if they got divorced and still lived together, BOTH of them would qualify for subsidies. The amount in subsidies we are talking about are not trivial either as they could add up to as much as $10,000 or so.

ObamaCare Marriage Penalty – Get Divorced So You Can Get A Subsidy
Exactly! Makes no sense at all. We are in this situation. I make $62K partner makes $15K. She qualifies for almost her whole entire premium to be subsidized and I get insurance through work. If we marry, I will have to shell out $180/month to add her to my insurance.

Only issue is that there are other benefits to marriage outside of tax breaks. When our financial situation adjusts, we will get married for those other reasons.
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:36 AM
 
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It also depends where the income is, who mnakes more, etc.


For example a couple with one person making $60,000, the other making $40,000. No kids taking the standard deduction


They would have paid $12,483 combined in 2013 if they were both single ($8,429 and $4,054) however it would be $11,858 if married,

If the breakout was $75,000 and $25,000. They would pay $12,179 and $1,804 for a total of $13,983 if single, with the same $11,858 if married


If the breakout was $50,000 each it would be $5,929 each and totaling the same $11,858 if married
Are you accounting for part of that income moving into the higher tax bracket? No. I know this because when me and my husband married years ago in August, our income stacked moved us into a higher tax bracket. Married only a short time we owed a huge tax bill because of it. If we had stayed single each of us would have received a small amount back.
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Are you accounting for part of that income moving into the higher tax bracket? No. I know this because when me and my husband married years ago in August, our income stacked moved us into a higher tax bracket. Married only a short time we owed a huge tax bill because of it. If we had stayed single each of us would have received a small amount back.

Yes.
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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Yes.
Well I'll have to contact the IRS for our money back lol.

I'll tell the IRS that my CPA was wrong and that Smash tells me that I didn't owe them money.

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