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Old 07-27-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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When there are 57 jewish countries like there are muslim, who ALL operate in alignment against Israel, THEN I might care what the UN says.

Since you raise the UN, how you ignore how it was the UN that created Israel to begin with?
if the Jews were always in Palestine as you say, wouldn't that make them Palestinians? Or would that interfere too much with your apples/oranges comparison of a religion and a nationality?[/quote]

Since no nation called " palestine" ever existed, that would be like calling every one from earth a vulcan, it is a meaningless term with no application to either the jews or anyone else.[/quote]

only one country unconditionally sides with israel at the UN ( the usa ) so enough of your " muslim conspirocy " spiel , people like you had no problem referencing the UN when iraq were in the dock back in the day
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Old 07-27-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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if the Jews were always in Palestine as you say, wouldn't that make them Palestinians? Or would that interfere too much with your apples/oranges comparison of a religion and a nationality?
Prior to the establishment of Israel in 1948 the Jews were the ones called Palestinians in the area!
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Old 07-27-2014, 12:28 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Was the "VACANCY" sign on when the Palestinians were walking by?

Just because people have been slaughtering Jews and occupying Israel for ages doesn't mean that land belongs to someone else.
Actually the Ottoman Empire put out a sign for Jews in 1876: "Land for Sale". After a few short decades the Jews put out a sign "Help Wanted" and migrant Arabs arrived.


How did Israel get it's land?
http://www.carasso.com/israel/land.html



As to Israel stealing land:

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Ninety five dunams (23.4 acres) of land next to the Israeli town of Alfei Menashe will be handed over to the descendants of three Arabs who fled Israel in 1967, after a Tel Aviv court ruled that the land was acquired by its ostensible owner based on false documents....The three original owners of the land were Arabs who left Samaria in the wake of the Six Day War, and went to live in Jordan.
Court Awards Prime Yesha Land to Jordanian Arabs - Inside Israel - News - Arutz Sheva

Thus if one, being an Arab, has a deed to the land and brings it front of a Israeli court wins even if they live in Jordan. The court ordered that ownership revert to the descendants of the original owners.
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Old 07-27-2014, 12:29 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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their economy has been destroyed by relentless bombardment and theft , theft of land which is used to build houses for new york and russian jews

how can they invest in anything , all they have is their bodies as weapons of war and their is no pallestinian propoganda , pallestinians are a weak , helpless disempowered people while the israelis have a diaspora in the states which dominates the media
Your problem in a nutshell. You only have the capacity to empathize with one side, making everything one sided. There is a constant barrage of Palestinian propaganda on my twitter and Facebook feeds. There is also a constant barrage from the Israeli side as well. I strongly believe the Israeli's were forced into this by Hamas. It doesn't mean I don't empathize with the poor Palestinian civilians that are being killed and injured. I also believe, based on fairly recent history, that Israel would like a 2 state solution and the Palestinians will not settle for 2 states. They are given enough aid where they could build a nice, safe place to live, independent from Israel, yet they choose to spend their money towards war and the impossible goal of taking over all of Israel. What is it they say? "From the river to the sea?" If they spent their money on things like water desalination plants, energy plants, schools, etc, in other words, if they made Gaza a nice place to live, the people may give up the crazy notion of killing jews and taking over the rest of Israel. Hell, I bet if they were peaceful people, Israel would even help them.

That is Hamas' biggest fear, so they will keep spending it on rockets, tunnels, and lining their leader's pockets. I feel terrible for the innocent Palestinian civilians. Hamas has taken so much from them and they don't even know it.
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Old 07-27-2014, 12:34 PM
 
Location: southern california
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both sides do. but hammas claim that all their daily missile attacks are merely a defense against israeli aggression is invalid. you are calling an attack a defense. same logic is used in every attack on police in this country.
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Old 07-27-2014, 02:26 PM
 
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From the looks of it, he has a better handle on the intelligence and innerworkings, than those making the big decisions.
Well if you are talking about Kerry and Obama then it is possible.
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:03 PM
 
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Palestinians reject Israel's offer for emergency blood supply to Gaza - Diplomacy and Defense Israel News | Haaretz
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Old 07-27-2014, 06:56 PM
 
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Default Islam claims to be the religion of peace - so why are so many Muslim countries killing innocent people?

Is the 'game' of Islam to pretend to be peaceful, then slaughter the innocent?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqV9iGoWek8
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Old 07-27-2014, 07:13 PM
 
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A better question is why was all of this Muslim violence ok with us when we were supporting and financing terrorist groups?
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:34 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Nobody is being shoved into the sea although Hamas would like to throw all the Israeli Jews into the water. But even the people of Gaza are getting tired of Hamas:
War-weary Gazans lash out at Hamas | Fox News



Gaza, is an open air prison and has been since the 6 day war.
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