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Old 08-05-2014, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Originally Posted by pnwmdk View Post
Well, you are wrong on all counts.

Your ideology IS the definition of immorality and it is indefensible.
They reward emotionalism and moralism and punish facts and reason.

They reward theft and laziness and punish work and success.

The reward illegal immigration and punish states that defend our border.

They reward incompetence and inexperience and punish competence and experience.

They reward indoctrination and lower standers and punish education and higher standards.

They reward pseudoscience and opinion and punish science and facts.

They reward technologies based on emotion and punish technologies based on fact and proven success.

The reward criminals and murders and punish law abiding citizens by actively trying to infringe on our Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

We all can not be wealth but we can all be made poor as not not offend those who are.

We all can not be smart and intelligence but we can all be made to be dumbed down as to not make the lowest common dominator upset.

We all can not be successful be we can all be made to be failures or have said successes curtailed or prevented as to not offend or upset those that failed.

We all can not be independent but we can all be made to be dependent as to not offend those who refuse to be independent.

We all can not be free and armed having the ability, means and will to defend our liberty, live, and property but we can all be made unsafe and disarmed lacking the ability, means and will to defend all we know and hold dear.

This quote sums it up very nicely.
"There is more slaves in New York and Pennsylvania than there is in Virginia and South Carolina and they are the meanest kind of slaves; they are volunteer slaves...."-David Crockett

They have this self destructive urge to destroy everything of values they find.

"The modern liberal, there’s something about his ideology that leads him to invariably and inevitably side with evil over good, wrong over right, the lesser over the better, the ugly over the beautiful, the profane over the profound, and the behaviors that lead to failure over those that lead to success."


"If no religion, no culture, no person, if no behavior, if no form of governance -- if nothing is better than anything else, then success is unjust." And there it is. "If no religion, no culture, no person, if no behavior, if no form of governance -- if nothing is better than anything else, then success is unjust. Why should a person, a nation, a government, religion succeed, if it’s not better than any other? So that liberalism says 'everything is equally good, man, coexist -- doesn’t make everything meet in the middle. It makes the better, bad."

If no religion or no culture or no person, if no behavior, if no form of government, if nothing is better than anything else, and that, by the way, manifests itself often in liberalism. It's how you arrive at believing success is unjust. Why should a person succeed, if that person's not better than anybody else? And a person can't succeed by being better because he's not permitted to be better, because that's unfair, that is itself unjust".
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Old 08-05-2014, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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How about your never-ending rants telling people to just move to other countries? There's no logic, reality, facts or reason for that argument.
No it is based on logic..If you want the lifestyle, values and culture of another nation move it it.

Why stay in nation with a culture, values, and views that some people so clearly do not like...
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Old 08-05-2014, 05:48 PM
 
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Loyalty
Integrity
Personal responsibility/ accountability
A person's word should mean something
Needs of our own out weigh the needs of any foreigners
Help those who can't help themselves (Americans)
Look within and mend our own fences before trying to tell others how to live.
Government spending shouldn't be based upon how much we can tax the people, but upon what we really need to spend.
"Loyalty" usually sabotages those listed below it.

Loyalty is a nasty principle.
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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No it is based on logic..If you want the lifestyle, values and culture of another nation move it it.

Why stay in nation with a culture, values, and views that some people so clearly do not like...
There's virtually no logic there. Kind of like you insisting that you could move Down Under and they'd be happy to welcome you with open arms, even though you have no money or skills.
Where is the logic in that?
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:38 PM
 
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No it is based on logic..If you want the lifestyle, values and culture of another nation move it it.

Why stay in nation with a culture, values, and views that some people so clearly do not like...
The real problem, is that the liberal poster is not satisfied to live and let other people live, no, he/she demands that everyone have HIS dreams imposed upon them. Liberals are not satisifed to promote generosity by being generous. They are unwilling to promote kindness by being kind. They are against allowing others to live their life as they see fit, and believe they have an innate right to force their wishes on the entire rest of the world, as they see themselves personally superior to everyone else.
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:40 PM
 
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There's virtually no logic there. Kind of like you insisting that you could move Down Under and they'd be happy to welcome you with open arms, even though you have no money or skills.
Where is the logic in that?
Of course you don't see the logic. You believe you have a right to force your wishes and way of living on everyone else.

If you want to live with oppressive government, with massive taxes, and all the accompanying ills, feel free to MOVE somewhere that makes you happy, instead of trying to force your immoral and irrational stuff on everyone else.
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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There's virtually no logic there. Kind of like you insisting that you could move Down Under and they'd be happy to welcome you with open arms, even though you have no money or skills.
Where is the logic in that?
For the last time that post was in jest if you cant understand that is not my problem.
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Republican form of government.
RFOG:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/29755425-post158.html
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Old 08-05-2014, 08:53 PM
 
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Constitution first.

If we want to be ruled by "morals", we'd be a theocracy.
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Old 08-05-2014, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Constitution first.

If we want to be ruled by "morals", we'd be a theocracy.
Amen...
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