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View Poll Results: Should we stop sending people/aid to Ebola infected nations?
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Old 10-10-2014, 09:26 AM
 
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Bleaching everything every week in the average home is... excessive. Ever heard of the hygeine hypothesis?

 
Old 10-10-2014, 09:33 AM
 
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Ebola lurks, but not on copper.

Copper ventilation ducts, grilles, plumbing, toilets, showers, thresholds, doors and door frames, walls, floors, ceilings, bed frames, counter and table tops, dishes and eating utensils, showers, sinks, toilets, faucets, spigots, drain pipes, fan blades, gurneys, utensils.

Colloidal metal showers, emergency and standard use.

And, not on zinc.

Use zinc interlock acrylic floor finishes as a disinfecting floor.

Silver is good.

Ultraviolet wall and ceiling lights for periodic room cleaning.

I could design an isolation room, and protocols.

The right surroundings can make a difference.

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Old 10-10-2014, 09:34 AM
 
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Bleaching everything every week in the average home is... excessive. Ever heard of the hygeine hypothesis?
Competition is good.

Open your windows!
 
Old 10-10-2014, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Bleaching everything every week in the average home is... excessive. Ever heard of the hygeine hypothesis?
Bathroom and kitchen are probably the best places to harbor germs and such.
I also wipe down the bathroom and kitchen with a bleach/water mix as well when I do my big weekly cleaning.
I also clean out my livestock water barrels each week with a bleach/water mix during the summer.

Once a week isn't overdoing it.

IMHO those that use all the antibacterial stuff all the time, every day are overdoing it.
 
Old 10-10-2014, 09:45 AM
 
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Maybe ebola victims need full body microwaving periodically.

TSA X-raying?
 
Old 10-10-2014, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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About the tenth paragraph down, beginning with "Louise refused ..."
It's "the imagery that lingers" around what Louise thinks....not the opinion of CNN.
 
Old 10-10-2014, 10:18 AM
 
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Ebola: Providers' Risk Small in U.S. Hospitals

A big point he makes are that careful infection control can be provided in American hospitals. A unit like that at Emory is not necessary.

Bruce Ribner, MD:

"It's something we can do safely," Ribner told MedPage Today during the annual IDWeek meeting here. "We had no healthcare worker exposures, we certainly had no healthcare workers acquiring infection.

"This is a virus which is well controlled with standard infection control measures that every hospital in the U.S. is capable of providing," he said.

"Patients with Ebola virus disease require droplet and contact precautions," he told reporters after his plenary presentation here, "no different from many other pathogens that we as healthcare workers deal with on almost a daily basis."

A problem is waste disposal. Third party contractors balked at taking it, but Emory found ways to keep everybody happy.
The problem is also mistakes made by people in the care of patients. The problem is also in the evolution of this disease. Can a person on a city bus or subway train leave the infection on a handrail or seat, and the next person after them pick up the infection?

“First, Ebola is not spread through the air like the flu,” Obama said in the video released by the White House Thursday. “You cannot get it through casual contact like sitting next to someone one a bus. You cannot get it from another person until they start showing symptoms of the disease, like fever.”

The CDC just asked infected people to stay away from public transportation.

But not to worry, Obama is saying we can keep our health if we like it, period!
 
Old 10-10-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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Absolutely. The standard paper gowns/maybe booties and short gloves are not adequate for something like Ebola, whereas they are for MRSA, etc. The example quoted of people getting staph infections in hospital are another story, that is, they have a hugely open wound and the healthcare providers are not the ones at risk- very different picture of infection.
So, because the healthcare workers are not at risk for MRSA, they don't take proper precautions to not infect patients? Is that your meaning or am I misreading?
 
Old 10-10-2014, 10:22 AM
 
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The problem is also mistakes made by people in the care of patients. The problem is also in the evolution of this disease. Can a person on a city bus or subway train leave the infection on a handrail or seat, and the next person after them pick up the infection?

“First, Ebola is not spread through the air like the flu,” Obama said in the video released by the White House Thursday. “You cannot get it through casual contact like sitting next to someone one a bus. You cannot get it from another person until they start showing symptoms of the disease, like fever.”

The CDC just asked infected people to stay away from public transportation.

But not to worry, Obama is saying we can keep our health if we like it, period!
The government is clearly in panic calming mode as HappyTexan likes to call it.
 
Old 10-10-2014, 10:25 AM
 
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Don't have a link but the AP was given the health records of Mr. Duncan from his family. Records show that he was released even after the hospital documented that he had a 103 degree fever. They even had the data point flagged. This is a big error. Ebola or not patients with this type of fever are at the very least held in observation. He also reported diarrhea and vomiting.

Updated with Link
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-10-12-09-20

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