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Old 08-16-2014, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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If you eliminate all taxes you will no longer have a country, which means no infrastructure to support the businesses. That means no fire, water, roads, and police, which means that an armed gang can take over a plant, kidnap the CEO, and hold him for ransom and no one will interfere.

Eliminating taxes completely would lead to anarchy. Is that what you want? Is there something I missed?
Thanks- beat me to the point. Let's not have a civilization. It just gets in the way of the idiots running the place.
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:38 PM
 
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So called "minorities" make up the world's "majority"
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:39 PM
 
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Technically speaking, the concept of race has no meaning. You could line up the entire world population from the blondest, straightest hair, whitest-skinned person to the blackest, kinkiest hair, darkest skin person and no one could put a finger on where one "race" begins and another ends. "Race" is a sociopolitical term used to maintain one "race's" financial superiority over another. "Race" is what the "majority" uses against the "minority".
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:42 PM
 
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Assuming you're Hispanic then what culture do you identify with? You cannot deny your genetic Spanish roots either just because you don't identify with them personally. If you speak Spanish then where do you think the Spanish language came from?
Hispanics/Latinos are about as Spanish as Oprah Winfrey being British!
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:49 PM
 
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Wanting to deport illegal immigrants is not racist. Declaring all Hispanics to be illegal immigrants, and attaching stereotypical negative qualities to them, is definitely racist. The majority of Hispanics are in the country legally and should have the same rights as everybody else does.

English is the de-facto official language of the US anyway, and everybody knows that. Before companies give you the option to continue in Spanish, the menu is in English.
You can't be racist to Hispanics, since Hispanics are not a racial group. Hispanics can be of any race or race admixture.

Also remember that xenophobia is NOT the same thing as racism.
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:55 PM
 
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It's fine to "promote your country's culture".

But when you deny the fact that so much of our country's culture stems from so many different cultures, it does in a way make you look like bigoted crybabies. You name something "uniquely American" and more than likely, it came from people of some other culture or country, even.

And it's one thing to not want illegal immigrants sneaking into the country. It's another to think that those people are all the same and here to do nothing but cause violence and harm to natural citizens. It seems as if some people forget that the first thing most of them do when they get here is work their asses off.
Hmm. We could say the same thing about Spanish speaking nations, they had racist & xenophobic laws & exclusionary acts & tactics that banned certain groups of people from entering their nations & stripped citizenship from people already living in and/or born in these respective nations, and also stressed Spanish over English & non Spanish languages.

USA actually bends over & backwards to accommodate immigrants from all parts of the globe than many realize.

In fact immigration laws & penalties for illegal immigration or violation of laws in countries like Mexico & Dominican Republic are actually much stricter & harsher in imposition, overall nature, & experience. In other words, they don't play dat/that

I think it's unfair to scrutinize USA & overlook other nations that have done even worse or continue to do worse. To be fair all of these issues have occurred globally, and humanity needs to yearn for & seek mutual happy medium on these issues to ensure tranquility, respect, & equality on all issues.


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Old 08-16-2014, 10:06 PM
 
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Assuming you're Hispanic then what culture do you identify with? You cannot deny your genetic Spanish roots either just because you don't identify with them personally. If you speak Spanish then where do you think the Spanish language came from?
That means most U.S. Americans should identify as British or w/ their British roots since they speak the English language.
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Old 08-16-2014, 10:14 PM
 
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Legal aliens ain't the problem. ILLEGAL aliens ARE. Cut off MOST illegal immigration and that will def slow down or stop the "minority-majority" nonsense. Even tho many legal aliens would still be "Hispanic", they're MUCH more likely to drop their old ways AND become "American" compared to the illegal kind.
While I agree with much of what you said, & get your point, if they're legal, then don't you think calling those that are legal, "aliens" is a bit of a stretch?
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Old 08-16-2014, 10:18 PM
 
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But it is not the most widely spoken language in every country. It is here, however. So it is a part of our heritage and culture. You've missed the entire point.
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Old 08-16-2014, 10:28 PM
 
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What gets on my nerves is when people try and pull the race card when patriotic Americans try to promote their country's culture. When someone says "deport illegal immigrants" or "make English the official language of the US" they are deemed as racist and the media eats this stuff up. It's okay for other countries to have nationalism but do that in the United States and your deemed a racist, especially if your White. It's a shame how minutemen get so demonized in this country. I just wonder what they call Black people who join the minutemen protests and marches?
Well said!
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