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Old 08-23-2014, 11:58 AM
 
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It's getting worse because the wealth gap between rich and poor is getting worse. The average white family had much more wealth in the late 1970's early 1989's when inequality started to rapidly increase.
Inconvenient fact is that 2 parent black homes are closing the gap with 2 parent whites during this time period. However, the vast majority of blacks are in single parent homes where they are losing ground and the gap is growing.

 
Old 08-23-2014, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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Looters probably don't have jobs. However, can you say for certain that the protesters don't have jobs?
No more than you can say the looters don't. It is only an opinion that people who have jobs are not going to stay up all night rabble rousing. Your point here is null.
 
Old 08-23-2014, 12:08 PM
 
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Posters will also stress education. Yet again when comparing apples to apples, what anyone will find is that black high school grads have twice the unemployment rate as white high school grads. That black people with 4 yr or higher college degrees have twice the unemployment rate of white people with the same level of education.

Also if the wealth and income of black people with 4year or advance college degrees are compared with white people with those same degrees huge racial inequalities exist.

So how can education end racial inequality when the data shows that it doesn't?

Education without equal employment opportunity is useless...especially for black people. Many large corporations only provide lip-service when it comes to hiring highly educated black people and make no effort to actively recruit and hire qualified African-Americans. Large tech firms in the Silicone Valley were recently slammed by the Justice Department for their dismal employment record for hiring blacks...many of them having only 1%-2% black representation.

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Old 08-23-2014, 12:11 PM
 
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Education without equal employment opportunity is useless...especially for black people. Many large corporations only provide lip-service when it comes to hiring highly educated black people and make no effort to actively recruit and hire qualified African-Americans. Large tech firms in the Silicone Valley were recently slammed by the Justice department for their dismal employment record for hiring blacks...many of them having only 1%-2% black representation.
How is that the company's fault when few blacks go into that field at college?

They hire more Asians, because Asians are more likely to get that degree, etc...

If anything, blame the colleges or high schools for not guiding/preparing blacks to enter that field.
 
Old 08-23-2014, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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Education without equal employment opportunity is useless...especially for black people. Many large corporations only provide lip-service when it comes to hiring highly educated black people and make no effort to actively recruit and hire qualified African-Americans. Large tech firms in the Silicone Valley were recently slammed by the Justice Department for their dismal employment record for hiring blacks...many of them having only 1%-2% black representation.
That's probably because most of these high-tech companies are owned and controlled by Asians or whites. Perhaps some savvy Black individuals should start up some high-tech companies and offer employment to Black people?
 
Old 08-23-2014, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Very sad to say the lease, that so many white Americans are in serious denial and dismiss the fact that there are serious problems in the United States regarding discrimination in employment, housing, etc when it comes to the MAJORITY black people.

5 disturbing stats on black-white financial inequality - Aug. 21, 2014
How about black-Asian inequality? Asians are richer than whites.
 
Old 08-23-2014, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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How is that the company's fault when few blacks go into that field at college?

They hire more Asians, because Asians are more likely to get that degree, etc...

If anything, blame the colleges or high schools for not guiding/preparing blacks to enter that field.
I don't fault the colleges. Most folks have freedom of choice as to what field of study they enter into. If the colleges tried to guide them, then the colleges would be blamed were they to fail. They simply must point their fingers at someone or something for their own failures.
 
Old 08-23-2014, 12:24 PM
 
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Education without equal employment opportunity is useless...especially for black people. Many large corporations only provide lip-service when it comes to hiring highly educated black people and make no effort to actively recruit and hire qualified African-Americans. Large tech firms in the Silicone Valley were recently slammed by the Justice Department for their dismal employment record for hiring blacks...many of them having only 1%-2% black representation.
Firms hire the people who have the skills they need. Go to a CS or close-enough (engineering/math/physics) department course at a competitive university and look around the classroom. Entry-level workers at companies like Facebook, Google, etc. that like to recruit students right out of university are going to look like the faces you see in that classroom. Less name-brand companies in other locations tend to be more diverse, but still when you boil down to it are going to reflect the available talent pool.

Given the increased proportion of people getting degrees, grade inflation, and non-merit admission reducing the signalling qualities of a college degree on the one hand and the decline in companies willingness to train on the other and the value of a degree as a credential has declined, and that's true for everyone, not just African-Americans (who do have it somewhat worse at any given point in time admittedly because of affirmative action further debasing the credential, but that effect can be remedied by putting a SAT score on your resume for your first few jobs, and after that no one cares about where (and to a lesser degree even if) you went to school or what you studied nearly so much).
 
Old 08-23-2014, 12:29 PM
 
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I don't fault the colleges. Most folks have freedom of choice as to what field of study they enter into. If the colleges tried to guide them, then the colleges would be blamed were they to fail. They simply must point their fingers at someone or something for their own failures.
Yes, some people like to make excuses for their own choices.

I think it is just extremely low IQ to complain about the % of a certain demographic hired for a certain job, while ignoring the very low % of that demographic that goes and gets the degree for that job. And no offense to the previous poster who is just repeating silly talking points that big politics use to divide us. Most people don't think things through when they hear it often.

Silicon Valley's hiring is reasonably in line with the demographics of people getting degrees in that field.

Some states didn't even have a single female, black, or Hispanic student take an AP Computer Science exam. Is that silicon valley's fault? Or is it more our educational system and cultural values fault?

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Old 08-23-2014, 12:50 PM
 
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Blacks are FAR worse off when there are no white people around. Just look at Africa and Haiti. They can't even feed themselves without the white man handing them food stamps. Compare any European country to any African country. You can't blame that on discrimination. Why aren't they creating their own corporations and businesses and hiring their own on Africa? Where is Africa's Silicon Valley if we are all so equal?
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