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Old 09-08-2014, 06:33 AM
 
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No, they did not. You're putting words in their mouths. All they asked for was to be allowed to observe Salat. They asked to be allowed to pray. They did not ask for accommodations in which to pray.

When the school district took it upon themselves to provide the Muslim students an unrequested prayer room, they legally obligated themselves to provide unrequested prayer rooms for all religions.

Again, not doing so is discrimination on the basis of religion, which is illegal.

I'm not sure why you don't agree that all religions should be treated equally. Unrequested prayer room for only one religion? Illegal. Has to be unrequested prayer rooms for all.
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Old 09-08-2014, 06:41 AM
 
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No one has been able to provide evidence that the Muslim students requested a prayer room. That's because they didn't. The school district provided one, unrequested, on their own initiative. That act obligates them to do the same for all religions in order to avoid the illegal act of discrimination on the basis of religion. Legally, students of all religions must be treated the same. Provide an unrequested prayer room for one religion, and the same must be provided for all.
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Old 09-08-2014, 07:10 AM
 
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Can't make it any more clear for you all... discrimination based on religion is illegal. If a school provides an unrequested prayer room for one religion, they are legally obligated to provide unrequested prayer rooms for all religions.
Incorrect.
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Old 09-08-2014, 07:16 AM
 
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Incorrect.
Quite correct. Public schools cannot take it upon themselves to provide for one religion without similarly providing for all.
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Old 09-08-2014, 07:24 AM
 
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Quite correct. Public schools cannot take it upon themselves to provide for one religion without similarly providing for all.
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Old 09-08-2014, 07:26 AM
 
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Quite correct. Public schools cannot take it upon themselves to provide for one religion without similarly providing for all.
No, it's incorrect.

Your argument is a fantasy.

There is no way any institution can provide an outlet for EVERY religion because there are too many religions. There are even religions we don't know anything about. The law doesn't require people or institutions to perform the impossible. Your insistence that it does so is either ignorance of the law, or a deliberate mischaracterization that is intended to further your argument based on falsehood. Similar to those who claim that prayer is not allowed in school.

Prayer is allowed in school, by any who wish to invoke a prayer. The only limits on prayer is that the school cannot SPONSOR prayer, and that the prayer not disrupt other students. The school's provision, for ten minutes a day, of a room is a reasonable balance. It allows prayer, but does not sponsor prayer. And it's not an accommodation of the Muslim students, since, as you've pointed out repeatedly, the students didn't request a private room. It's an accommodation of the rest of the student body, to prevent disruption of their classes or lunch period.
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Old 09-08-2014, 07:30 AM
 
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Daniel Mach, director of the ACLU Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief: "Public schools can't play favorites with religion. Whatever schools do to accommodate students' beliefs, it must be done fairly, equally and not to promote any one faith or encourage religious devotion in general."

If a public school provides an unrequested prayer room for those of one religion, the same must be provided without requiring any request, to all.
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Old 09-08-2014, 07:32 AM
 
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Daniel Mach, director of the ACLU Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief: "Public schools can't play favorites with religion. Whatever schools do to accommodate students' beliefs, it must be done fairly, equally and not to promote any one faith or encourage religious devotion in general."

If a public school provides an unrequested prayer room for those of one religion, the same must be provided without request to all.
And what this public school did did not "promote any one faith or encourage religious devotion."

It accommodated the student body in ensuring that students would not have their classes or lunch period disrupted by the religious practices of a handful of students.
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Old 09-08-2014, 07:33 AM
 
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There is no way any institution can provide an outlet for EVERY religion because there are too many religions. There are even religions we don't know anything about.
Provide for none or all. Otherwise it's religion-based discrimination, which is indeed illegal.
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Old 09-08-2014, 07:36 AM
 
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Install a Small Blue Room for every religion known to man on the school back parking lot and require all praying be done within one, they can take their potty break while there. But then again some idiot will claim that one blue room is ten feet further to walk and demand equal distance. Talk about Stupidity on display, this thread is a fine example of some people never being satisfied and why society should simply ignore their ramblings as those of crackpots seeking their ten seconds of fame.
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