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I don't buy the everything will go up in price either. It doesn't have to.
The cost of labor is one of the factors evaluated when goods/services are priced. If the cost of labor increases, so will prices for goods/services. Same is true of corporate taxes. The extra cost is passed on to consumers. That's why it's idiotic to have high corporate taxes. Not only do they drive corporations out of the country to reduce costs, they force higher prices for those that remain in the U.S.
They already do in food stamps, Medicaid, housing programs, welfare...
These companies are making the taxpayers subsidize their business, when they should pay the full costs of their labor.
Oh, please! That's liberal bull crap!
If government forces business to pay $15/hr to fast food workers, or other low skilled jobs, these people will then be demanding $20/hr! Where does it stop?
It is not the employers responsibility to subsidize an employees desires/needs with wages that exceed the value of the employees contribution to the success of the organization. If you think it is, you've got things totally backward.
You cannot expect to go through life without putting forth any effort, and expect others to subsidize your every desire and provide all your needs, and never having to learn new skills, increase your knowledge, and thus your value, yes, your worth, to the ones paying your wages or salary!
Get a life! Take your "progresive" socialist bull crap and throw it in the garbage where it belongs!
People who make more save-- which is great for them, but takes money out of the economy.
How is investing in the economy taking money out of the economy?
For example... Who do you think funds the municipal bonds, etc., that permit towns, schools, park districts, etc., to complete capital improvement projects which while also of benefit to the public, provide jobs, which then increases the amount of money pumped back into the economy?
Yeah its certainly not the government robbing us all big time and giving a little back to favored groups (a.k.a. Welfare)
Wages are set by demand for a skill and unskilled workers are many, sorry to burst your utopian bubble.
The Democrat Party keeps telling them differently. That's how the Democrat Party stays in power, by keeping these lap dog lackeys in need. They don't want them to succeed, because if they do become successful, they will likely not be Democrat voters.
They already do in food stamps, Medicaid, housing programs, welfare...
These companies are making the taxpayers subsidize their business, when they should pay the full costs of their labor.
No they aren't. These jobs were never intended to be a living wage. These are jobs that high school students, college students and senior citizens would take. These are jobs people take if they need a second income (with two kids in college, I'll be looking for a second job myself) These aren't supposed to be permanent jobs. They're ENTRY LEVEL jobs. You're supposed to get training, get an education and move out and up. Demanding a living wage is to demand to make these jobs something they were never intended to be.
I do agree that the government does subsidize these workers but that is the choice of the worker as they have chosen to stay in an ENTRY LEVEL job instead of get experience and move out and up (or just up. I have a brother and SIL who worked their way up into management in a fast food chain while going through college). You are blaming people not developing and marketing themselves to find better jobs on their entry level employer. That's not where the blame belongs. It belongs on the employee. We're talking jobs that require no education or specialized training here. Asking for $15/hour is just asking for corporate welfare to support their decision to never better themselves. We don't owe anything to them for deciding they didn't want to do the work to get a better job.
Your labor is worth what someone is willing to pay you and you will never increase it's value by increasing the minimum wage, if you want a raise increase the value of your labor.
That concept is anathema to the Liberal mind, because it smacks too much of capitalism. To the Liberal, capitalism is the evil that oppresses, not the liberating system that advances one to a better life.
The Liberals ridicule someone like Ayan Rand, yet worship the philosophy of Karl Marx. "Progressivism" is Marxist/socialism. These people have been duped; or, rather, brainwashed.
we're spending TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS of dollars, borrowed from China (that your great grandkids will be repaying) on rebuilding Afghanistan, only to have the Taliban take over what we're building. There are BILLIONS of dollars in military equipment there, 100's of generators which cost $300M each not even being used... and you people think paying a burger flipper $15 a big deal?
we're spending TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS of dollars, borrowed from China (that your great grandkids will be repaying) on rebuilding Afghanistan, only to have the Taliban take over what we're building. There are BILLIONS of dollars in military equipment there, 100's of generators which cost $300M each not even being used... and you people think paying a burger flipper $15 a big deal?
McDonald's worker makes $7.50, they pay $7.50 for McDonald's meal.
McDonald's worker makes $75.00, they pay $75.00 for McDonald's meal.
McDonald's worker makes $750,000,000, they pay $750,000,000 for McDonald's meal.
It's not just the minimum workers that gets a raise, if I'm making $12.50 and the minimum goes to $12.50 I deserve and expect a substantial raise. The person above is going to expect the same.... The cost of everything goes up and the minimum wage worker is back to square one.
THIS!!
I saw it many times during my years working at a closed-shop union job. WE got a contract mandated pay raise from our employer (one of the largest in the area in terms of number of employees), so the prices in the grocery store went up, so the employees of other businesses wanted a pay raise, so the prices in other stores went up, and within a month our buying power was at the same level as it was before the pay raise! Sometimes our real net increase turned out to be a decrease.
Then the union bragged about what a great job they were doing for us.
Besides, the starting wage at the local McDonalds is $9.50/hour!
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