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View Poll Results: Isn't it the time to rethink that conservative "liberals are anti-business" claim as it is
Yes. Liberal socio-economic policies work as evidenced by the richest us states 19 63.33%
No. Only conservative policies work and Alabama and Mississippi are an exception 9 30.00%
I don't know. Need to find out more about the issue. 2 6.67%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-16-2014, 01:52 AM
 
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mean while the liberal states are running so much debt, not even the federal government could bail them out

cali has nearly 1 trillion in debt
Ny has nearly 700 billion in debt..with NYC itself having over 190 billion in debt

way to go liberals.....spend like drunken sailors

 
Old 09-16-2014, 02:08 AM
 
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Do not compare them to sailors who are mend of honor and duty, not liars, thieves, and whores that leftist so very clearly are...
my apologies


from an Army guy
 
Old 09-16-2014, 05:57 AM
 
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mean while the liberal states are running so much debt, not even the federal government could bail them out

cali has nearly 1 trillion in debt
Ny has nearly 700 billion in debt..with NYC itself having over 190 billion in debt

way to go liberals.....spend like drunken sailors
Liberal states don't need a bailouts, they have good economies. What's Alabama and Louisiana going to do?
 
Old 09-16-2014, 06:09 AM
 
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Liberal states don't need a bailouts, they have good economies. What's Alabama and Louisiana going to do?
oh really

how's the BANKRUPTCY of Detroit going for you..as liberal Detroit takes all of Michigan down with it

Michigan...total revenue 9 billion....total expenditures fy 2013 48 billion...a 37 billion dollar DEFICIT for the year

their DEBT 200 billion and counting
 
Old 09-16-2014, 06:20 AM
 
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oh really

how's the BANKRUPTCY of Detroit going for you..as liberal Detroit takes all of Michigan down with it

Michigan...total revenue 9 billion....total expenditures fy 2013 48 billion...a 37 billion dollar DEFICIT for the year

their DEBT 200 billion and counting

Still a far cry from economical prowess of most conservative states. Should I bring up Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas, Kentucky or Florida? Lol
 
Old 09-16-2014, 06:30 AM
 
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Still a far cry from economical prowess of most conservative states. Should I bring up Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas, Kentucky or Florida? Lol
oh..have they declared bankruptcy like the liberal cities.....not


how about Illinois :

total expenditures for FY13: 66 billion
total revenue for fy 13: 36 billion
a DEFICIT of 30 billion for one year


total debt 380 billion dollars


another liberal bastion in debt to their eyeballs
 
Old 09-16-2014, 06:36 AM
 
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mean while the liberal states are running so much debt, not even the federal government could bail them out

cali has nearly 1 trillion in debt
Ny has nearly 700 billion in debt..with NYC itself having over 190 billion in debt

way to go liberals.....spend like drunken sailors
A state with a growing economy and little to no deficit spending would be stupid to not issue more debt right now considering that it's as close to free as it'll ever be if their bond rating is high enough. Long term pension obligations are a much bigger threat to state and local governments than issuing new debt for infrastructure investment.

And California is currently sitting on a $4 billion surplus.

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Old 09-16-2014, 07:00 AM
 
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A state with a growing economy and little to no deficit spending would be stupid to not issue more debt right now considering that it's as close to free as it'll ever be if their bond rating is high enough. Long term pension obligations are a much bigger threat to state and local governments than issuing new debt infrastructure investment.

And California is currently sitting on a $4 billion surplus.
Not to mention the fact California has one of the biggest economies in the world.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 08:33 AM
 
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Not to mention the fact California has one of the biggest economies in the world.
having a 'big economy' doesn't do much when you have nearly a trillion dollars in debt
 
Old 09-16-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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having a 'big economy' doesn't do much when you have nearly a trillion dollars in debt
Liberals don't understand or even care about debt, it's a foreign concept to them that other people deal with. To liberals, debt is always someone else's problem.
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