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Mr. Ebola, would never be able to board a plane to Brussels without a USA visa, if he lists his final destination as the USA. Do people think you just buy an international ticket and just hop on a plane? it doesn't work that way. You have to have the legal authority to enter the country you declare as your final destination. So your scenario is a fail.
Then there's no need for a ban, is there? The consulate that issues visas does not do so automatically. If they think there's an issue with the potential visa holder, they just don't issue one. You have to go in and interview in person, if I'm not mistaken.
They already have the authority to ban travel to individuals from anywhere, no questions asked.. why do you want to impose a highly publicized ban and potentially drive those in contact with the virus underground, when it's patently not necessary?
If the consulate doesn't want you to have a visa you won't get one. Travel, banned.
Duncan's death was probably preventable too, if he hadn't engaged in some of the activities he did. That's always going to be the case. Your desire to just blow this off is scary.
BTW, all of you who want to criticize the hospital, here's an interesting story on NPR this morning: Latest Developments In The Ebola Story : The Two-Way : NPR "The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is expected to revise protocols for health workers dealing with possible Ebola cases to include protective gear "with no skin showing." . . ."Health officials had previously allowed hospitals some flexibility to use available covering when dealing with suspected Ebola patients. The new guidelines are expected to set a firmer standard: calling for full-body suits and hoods that protect worker's necks, setting rigorous rules for removal of equipment and disinfection of hands, and calling for a "site manager" to supervise the putting on and taking off of equipment." "
So it seems the CDC's protocols weren't as stringent as they could have been.
I don't think anyone has any desire to "just blow this off..."
The fact remains, however, that only ONE person has died in this country as a result of this disease.
Of course we should be aware of the possibility of infection, but the bottom line is that we do not have the same issues here that are present in those countries where the infection has spread dramatically.
We have sanitation. We have clean water. We do not have people dying in the street and being left where they fall.
More people have sadly died from Enterovirus D68 in this country than have died from Ebola.
More people are infected with Enterovirus D68 in this country than are infected with Ebola.
If people WANT to worry about something, they should probably worry about that.
You have to accept reality: in today's world there is no way to stop any disease from making its way to your part of it. You have to prepare for the inevitability. The recent experience shows, though, that in the case of Ebola, we are looking at something that can be stopped with relative ease. The common flu represents a much greater public health threat.
A travel ban for West African travellers would stop it.
If your talking points supported that, you would be here arguing for it.
A travel ban for West African travellers would stop it.
If your talking points supported that, you would be here arguing for it.
No. There are few medical experts anywhere in any country on the globe that agree with you. There is no world wide conspiracy of medical minds. Yours is a panicked, knee-jerk reaction that offers comfort to the ignorant while doing little to blunt the threat. In a nutshell, there would be other avenues of entry. It can't be stopped. It can only be managed when it gets here.
Duncan's death was probably preventable too, if he hadn't engaged in some of the activities he did. That's always going to be the case. Your desire to just blow this off is scary.
BTW, all of you who want to criticize the hospital, here's an interesting story on NPR this morning: Latest Developments In The Ebola Story : The Two-Way : NPR "The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is expected to revise protocols for health workers dealing with possible Ebola cases to include protective gear "with no skin showing." . . ."Health officials had previously allowed hospitals some flexibility to use available covering when dealing with suspected Ebola patients. The new guidelines are expected to set a firmer standard: calling for full-body suits and hoods that protect worker's necks, setting rigorous rules for removal of equipment and disinfection of hands, and calling for a "site manager" to supervise the putting on and taking off of equipment." "
So it seems the CDC's protocols weren't as stringent as they could have been.
Dallas did not follow even the previous standards of protection.
In 1989, the Reston Ebola strain was discovered in the US, in Reston, Va, not far from DC. Four US people became infected with this strain and walked amongst us.The situation was relatively contained, from a PR standpoint, by the US Army and CDC.
No one knew, at the time, this particular strain was not lethal to humans. Worst case, the infected people got what was later described as an Ebola cold.
Samples of every known Ebola strain, small pox and a bevy of other horrible viruses have been imported to the US, Canada and an assortment of other countries for study, for decades.
Ebola scare is over. There may be one or two additional cases from the fubar hospital in Dallas, but all current patients have been removed and are now being cared for my competent organizations. Republicans who have grabbed on to this issue are going to find it disappears by election day.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is expected to revise protocols for health workers dealing with possible Ebola cases to include protective gear "with no skin showing."
Frieden, director of the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said during a telephone press briefing Wednesday that you cannot get Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus, but that infected or exposed persons should not ride public transportation because they could transmit the disease to someone else.
One of the clearest illustrations of political double-speak I've seen in a long time. Is it any wonder that people are confused and -- as a result -- fearful?
Pendulums tend to swing to extremes until they center.
This " abundance of caution" thing is one example.
Ebola scare is over. There may be one or two additional cases from the fubar hospital in Dallas, but all current patients have been removed and are now being cared for my competent organizations. Republicans who have grabbed on to this issue are going to find it disappears by election day.
I would agree - though there never was much of a scare anyway.
though a few people may fly over here and get sick. . . this isn't a risk to US
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