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Old 10-15-2014, 10:56 AM
 
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Yep, and so many libs on this board said the same thing. It could never make it here. The people would be way too ill to travel. Those posters look extremely silly now.
The middle aged ones especially so. Being middle aged you'd think they would know better.
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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I wonder when we'll have the "expert" on who can teach people about the term exponential.

Health worker flew day before Ebola symptoms - CNN.com

1 exposes 132, now those 132 came in contact with "X" many in their lives, etc.

I like this part:

"The October 13 flight was cleaned thoroughly after it landed, "per our normal procedures which is consistent with CDC guidelines," the airline said. After the airline was informed of the Ebola patient, the plane was removed from service."

CDC guidelines?


"U.S. President Barack Obama says he'll reach out directly to heads of state to encourage other countries to do more to fight back."

Good grief.
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Given the primitive conditions they work under in the infected countries, perhaps a better question is why the infection rate has not been substantially higher.

The history of Ebola prior to this year is a series of short-lived and very isolated outbreaks of different Ebola strains.

The majority of WHO's funding comes from private first world donors who have tremendous influence over priorities, thus the focus has been on those issues that kill the most people within the first world, heart disease, Cancer, diabetes and so on.

Likewise, the majority of the CDC budget have focused on first world health issues. What kind of political finagling was necessary to create the ( reportedly) existing 19 level 4 bio-containment beds in the whole of the US that were not ever focused on eventually containing Ebola?

How receptive would any Congress have been towards allocating a $ bajillion to substantially expanding level 4 bio containment beds throughout the US, just in case there was an Ebola epidemic, putting aside the overwhelming number of infectious disease healthcare professionals have absolutely no first hand experience with Ebola?

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Old 10-15-2014, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Here
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"U.S. President Barack Obama says he'll reach out directly to heads of state to encourage other countries to do more to fight back."
I'm sure he'll call just before he begins the back 9.
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Given the primitive conditions they work under in the infected countries, perhaps a better question is why the infection rate has not been substantially higher.
Perhaps because the "experts" who are doing the estimation on how many have been infected have been wrong?

From the WHO:

http://www.newsweek.com/ebola-outbre...ted-who-264749

"Staff with the World Health Organisation battling an Ebola outbreak in West Africa see evidence the numbers of reported cases and deaths vastly underestimates the scale of the outbreak, the U.N. agency said on its website on Thursday."


I know this is hard to grasp for some who have faith in our "experts/leadership".
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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The fact that this health care worker had contact with Mr. Duncan and then was allowed to fly is unfathomable. We must face the reality that our agencies to do not know what they are doing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/us...T.nav=top-news
I totally agree with you. If they were under observation they should never have been able to get on a plane. And Dallas is a major hub for international travel isn't it? Bet other countries are not too happy with our ineptness.
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:10 AM
 
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Well my sister is NOT in Texas and she said she would quit before dealing with Ebola.
Her hospital has ZERO level 4 gear.

One difference is that the other hospitals knew in advance they were getting an Ebola patient.
It seems like common sense is more valuable than Level 4 gear in these hospitals.
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Friedan still insisting it was the nurses fault.

Live here

CDC officials update Ebola situation after second Dallas nurse tests positive | Ebola in Dallas: Stories, videos, photos, graphics and resources from The Dallas Morning News
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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It is embarrassing. This man is nothing better than snake oil.
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I keep remembering Ezekiel Emanuel's line of "when resources are scarce"...and how to prioritize treatment. I also recall in 2009 the CDC's plans to prioritize H1N1 treatment.
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