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e130478 :"The refusal of certain people to acknowledge even the most obvious forms of American economic progress is absolutely astounding. There are people who actually think the BLS is defrauding the American people with "fake numbers." Hilarious."
Obama has only signed one true anti-business legislation and that was Obamacare. The Keystone Pipeline couldn't go through the Senate before getting to his desk. As for what Republicans can do, can they tax companies who want to offshore businesses to other nations? Oh wait they can't because that is "anti-business... What is more important, appeasing business who can't vote or the people who feel the brunt of some pro-business legislation like a laxed EPA of encouraging offshoring.
Spoken like a true Obama supporter. Are you DENYING that Harry Reid is the dam that keeps the waters of the Congress from flowing to Obama's desk?
AND - It's like a deliberate refusal to admit that anti-business action and rhetoric doesn't DIRECTLY IMPACT "the people". For the LAST TIME: BUSINESS CREATES JOBS: NOT GOVERNMENT. So assault business all you want. And pay the price.
Even if your statement were TRUE, it's a lawyerly wordsmithing to misstate the issue.
1) Dodd-Frank wasn't "anti-business"? Sorry, every business on the face of the Earth will disagree with you including Obama friendly type businesses.
2) You don't have to "sign true anti-business legislation" to implement CHOKING REGULATIONS vis a vis creating thousands and thousands of UNELECTED BUREAUCRATIC regulations and massive regulatory intrusion.
HOW IRONIC - giving his newly announced "DEAL" with China choking THE USA about "climate change".
Are you denying that it's the entire POINT of Obama "working AROUND Congress" using agencies instead?
You don't think EPA regs impact business?
You don't think HHS regs impact business AND YOUR TAX DOLLARS even at a local school lunch program level?
You don't think DHS immigration activities impact business? OR SCHOOLS? OR your local COMMUNITY?
You don't think that sending a freaking TEAM of GOVERNMENT THUGS to RAID GIBSON GUITAR doesn't impact business.
You don't think the IRS TARGETING people's BUSINESSES because of their PERSONAL BELIEFS doesn't impact business? What about the chilling effect it has throughout the entire business community or EVEN the chilling effect Obama's massive control over the MEDIA HAS? Like accusing a reporter of being a criminal and treating them as such.
You don't think giving AMNESTY to 5 Million illegals is anti-business? While they won't ENFORCE eVerify requirement and force HONEST BUSINESSES to compete with cheap unskilled labor flooding the borders not to mention SCHOOLS???
3) You obviously never even HEARD Of OPERATION CHOKE POINT.
It doesn't MATTER what "legislation" Obama signed. We know WHAT he is. And HOW he avoiding even HAVING to sign or veto legislation. And what his ACTIONS prove. And the people SPOKE last week. They're OVER IT. Liberalism and Progressive-ism is a failure HERE just like everywhere else. It is no longer an academic CONCEPT but reality.
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You know why Dodd-Frank was passed by both houses and signed by President Obama? The backlash of the bailouts that we needed to allow for after several banks needed to be bailed out because they were "too big to fail" because they took on too many bad debt with the securities bubble over the early and mid 2000's and they would have brought us into a TRUE depression if we didn't bail them out. I know, fear that, we couldn't do laizee-fare economics. It's like complaining about Sarbanes-Oaxley but we wouldn't need that if companies operated in a ethical manner.
The EPA is a "needed evil." Would you want to not be able to jump into your local lake, river, stream, ocean, etc. because it is dirty from a company? You can't really swim on the north shore of Long Island, NY along the coast of the Long Island Sound, but at least you have the south shore along the Atlantic coast. Would you want to experience what it is like to live in China and wear surgical masks to walk around town? Arizona has that with limited pollution from what is called "brown cloud" which isn't really pollution parsay it is more dirt getting kicked up into the air from farming and off-roading. Wouldn't you want few more generations enjoy what you enjoyed even if it's at a little bit of a cost to businesses?
I've heard of choke points and Obamacare is one and to an extent the EPA is though as I said the EPA is and unless we go to a more single-payer system rather than Obamacare, Obamacare will continue to be a choke point. I still fail to see besides Obamacare (something that I've recently become more in favor for than against) and the EPA what Obama has done that is ant-business and I didn't think he was the best choice for President either time.
You are mistaken. Obama's entire political philosophy is anti-business. Nothing he has done is pro-business.
How do you conservatives say this with a straight face, when U.S. businesses are sitting on several trillion worth of cash/assets, and market indices are at all-time highs?
How do you conservatives say this with a straight face, when U.S. businesses are sitting on several trillion worth of cash/assets, and market indices are at all-time highs?
And also the fact that if Obama was truly as anti-business as people think he is, he wouldn't have made it that far in the primaries. This happens with all the PACs during the state primaries. I honestly think that conservatives think anything that causes spending or even thinks that EPA regulation is needed is a Marxist or Commie even if they are a moderate (not saying Obama is.)
Think its bad now? Wait till the republicans take over in January and implement all their pro big business plans.
Yeah, those terrible republicans will probably only lower corporate taxes and create long lasting jobs with higher wages and yields, huh? Unlike YOUR guy who spent billions on "shovel ready" projects that didn't materialize and created an entire underground economy of underemployed......The Republicans will do this WITHOUT your spending and finally create some real jobs where the first question out of the employees mouth won't be; "would you like fries with that"?
Those evil Republicans........boy, you really got them pegged....
I will not defend Rev. Wright, that takes steps back just as Stokley Carmichael did during the civil rights movement. However what church you belong to don't dictate that you believe that way. If that were the case I'd believe abortion should be illegal like the Catholic Church that I grew up going to, does. I am not sure if Obama believes the Wright preaching or not. Nor would it mean he couldn't be a moderate.
Guess you forgot who was in charge during the CRASH of 1929,
American national politics during the 1920s were dominated by the Republican Party, which controlled the White House and Congress throughout the decade. Presidents Warren Harding (in office 1921-23) and Calvin Coolidge (1923-29) were very conservative men who believed strongly in laissez-faire and in the primary role of business in American life. In 1928, another Republican, Herbert Hoover, was elected president in a landslide over Democrat Al Smith.
He had also been Secretary of Commerce under Harding and Coolidge, so he in particular was given a great deal of credit for the decade’s seeming prosperity. Hoover confidently took office in March 1929, and in his inaugural address he proclaimed that "I have no fears for the future of our country. It is bright with hope." Seven months later, the stock market crashed and the worst depression in American history began. It would last for over ten years.
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What is more important, appeasing business who can't vote or the people who feel the brunt of some pro-business legislation like a laxed EPA of encouraging offshoring.
