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View Poll Results: Body Cameras for the Cops?
Yes 147 91.88%
No 13 8.13%
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Originally Posted by iNviNciBL3 View Post
We are not cars, we are not objects owned by a company... we are human beings, we are Americans with constitutional rights and we don't deserve to wear body cameras like we are a company owned police car.

Stop comparing humans to cars.
And I am not a number, I am a person. But when your employer says, "You have to do this or we have to let you go" you have a choice.

Just like the guy who started drug testing his employees for nicotine. Its his right as an employer to do that, they don't have to work for him. You don't have to be a cop. Find a job selling ice cream, no cameras for you there
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:13 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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You're falsely equating a civilian who is not working with a civilian who is not only on the job, but represents an authority. If the police officer is a good person then he will have nothing to be concerned about, people in all sorts of professions are monitored at their jobs. Truck drivers are monitored, bus drivers are monitored, I am monitored at the call center I work in etc.

Video evidence against the big bad civilians would only stand to help the police officers, unless of course you're a corrupt cop in which case it would be the other way around.

As said before, video is objective and has no bias towards either party.
We. Aren't. Car's.

We. Aren't. Semi Trucks.

We. Are Humans.

Not only is this a Constitutional thing, this is also a Moral thing. requiring humans to wear a body camera is messed up just admit it.

This is not the same as a security camera in a office building.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I am sure it would result in quick closure to many abuse allegations and save the towns/cities/counties,etc involved a great deal of money in the long run. I think it is an excellent idea.

It would also aid officers in writing reports later by viewing the video and of course, aid the prosecution with their case presentation.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:15 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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And I am not a number, I am a person. But when your employer says, "You have to do this or we have to let you go" you have a choice.

Just like the guy who started drug testing his employees for nicotine. Its his right as an employer to do that, they don't have to work for him. You don't have to be a cop. Find a job selling ice cream, no cameras for you there
But you think its right for an employee to require his employees to WEAR BODY CAMERAS.

I find it strange how you people are confused why someone like me would be against someone being required to WEAR A CAMERA.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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But you think its right for an employee to require his employees to WEAR BODY CAMERAS.

I find it strange how you people are confused why someone like me would be against someone being required to WEAR A CAMERA.
I think its right for an employer to tell their employee to do anything within the limits of the law. My employer can't tell me to shoot someone, but they can have me escort them off the property. If I don't do it, then they have the right to release me from my employment.

As a police officer, you are a employee of the city and state. If that city and state requires you to wear a camera at work, then I support their right as employers to make you do so, while at work. They shouldn't be able to make you install one in your home, but while at work, yep, they should have that right.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:19 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Sorry but there is no way i'm gonna be okay with people who want require my fellow human beings to wear a body camera. the image of police officers walking around with cameras is just fu-ked up.

Don't expect everyone to be all happy if this ever does happen.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:19 PM
 
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But you think its right for an employee to require his employees to WEAR BODY CAMERAS.

I find it strange how you people are confused why someone like me would be against someone being required to WEAR A CAMERA.
Yeah!

What next, surgeons?
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:20 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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I think its right for an employer to tell their employee to do anything within the limits of the law. My employer can't tell me to shoot someone, but they can have me escort them off the property. If I don't do it, then they have the right to release me from my employment.

As a police officer, you are a employee of the city and state. If that city and state requires you to wear a camera at work, then I support their right as employers to make you do so, while at work. They shouldn't be able to make you install one in your home, but while at work, yep, they should have that right.
I am talking morally, you like the idea of people walking around with BODY CAMERAS... even though some of them may not even want them on?

Yes or No?
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:20 PM
 
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We. Aren't. Car's.

We. Aren't. Semi Trucks.

We. Are Humans.

Not only is this a Constitutional thing, this is also a Moral thing. requiring humans to wear a body camera is messed up just admit it.

This is not the same as a security camera in a office building.
Are you afraid the cameras would record an officer's farts?
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I am talking morally, you like the idea of people walking around with BODY CAMERAS... even though some of them may not even want them on?

Yes or No?
Morals don't have a damned thing to do with it. If my employees had guns and could shoot people, I'd want them to wear cameras, morally yes, because that would protect them and me against prosecution if they did shoot someone.
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