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Old 11-17-2014, 01:58 PM
 
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I don't know, I have never been to Brussels. But it looks like typical wealthy European suburbia. Land is much more expensive than in the US, so naturally homes and gardens are smaller.
In Mediterranean countries wealthy people often have mansions like in the US. The South is more snobbish in this respect, less egalitarian.

In most of Europe you are not supposed to show your wealth, though. There might be a filthy rich person living right next to you and you would never guess.
That attitude exists somewhat in very yankee areas of the US (extreme northeast), but in pretty much every city in the US now there are neighborhoods of huge, opulent houses built around country clubs. These areas also have the best schools -- the attendance at which gives a child a much better chance of getting into a prestigious university. Lawns are massive and manicured -- all done by professional gardeners of course.

Areas like this have only really exploded in the US since 1980. It used to be that a CEO would live in a nicer, but not that much nicer, area as his middle managers. Now ... lololol ... totally different worlds.
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Old 11-17-2014, 01:59 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Socialism is not communism, bent.

You brought up communism. Which by the way is dependent on socialism.

Neither resemble freedom and liberties of the individual. Something our Constitution use to stand in the way of, taking.
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Old 11-17-2014, 02:00 PM
 
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if you don't like suburbia then move...

I'm talking about the OP having the new car smell of Brussels and acting like it's a utopia.
It's definitely not utopia, Felt, and I'm not saying it is. What I am saying is that their suburbs make ours looks like trash. They truly do. I'm sure you've had some delicious crusty freshly baked bread, right? Imagine if it were 1982 and bread to you meant a good old loaf of Wonderbread and you just had some of that delicious European style bread you can now get at pretty much every US supermarket. Wouldn't you feel like .. hold the f'ing phone, why aren't we baking this stuff in America? That's kind of how I feel when I look around my neighborhood and think about what new construction could and should be back home.
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Old 11-17-2014, 02:07 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Did some more Googling, this looks like a wealthier neighborhood than the one before:

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=50.8...340.12,,0,-1.5

What's interesting on those images is that even wealthy Belgians seem to avoid big cars.
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Old 11-17-2014, 02:13 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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That attitude exists somewhat in very yankee areas of the US (extreme northeast), but in pretty much every city in the US now there are neighborhoods of huge, opulent houses built around country clubs. These areas also have the best schools -- the attendance at which gives a child a much better chance of getting into a prestigious university. Lawns are massive and manicured -- all done by professional gardeners of course.

Areas like this have only really exploded in the US since 1980. It used to be that a CEO would live in a nicer, but not that much nicer, area as his middle managers. Now ... lololol ... totally different worlds.
Yes, I am quite happy that this is not the case in most of Europe. In Germany almost everyone attends public school, so kids from all social strata are mixed together. Since wealthy and not so wealthy live close together, it is only natural they attend the same schools.
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Old 11-17-2014, 02:14 PM
 
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Did some more Googling, this looks like a wealthier neighborhood than the one before:

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=50.8...340.12,,0,-1.5

What's interesting on those images is that even wealthy Belgians seem to avoid big cars.
That's a nice area. That's probably where the Eurocrats are calling home, eh?
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Old 11-17-2014, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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That attitude exists somewhat in very yankee areas of the US (extreme northeast), but in pretty much every city in the US now there are neighborhoods of huge, opulent houses built around country clubs. These areas also have the best schools -- the attendance at which gives a child a much better chance of getting into a prestigious university. Lawns are massive and manicured -- all done by professional gardeners of course.
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Sounds like a good case of jealousy. Why are you so concerned about what other people choose to spend their money on?
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Old 11-17-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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Yes, I am quite happy that this is not the case in most of Europe. In Germany almost everyone attends public school, so kids from all social strata are mixed together. Since wealthy and not so wealthy live close together, it is only natural they attend the same schools.
In theory, every American gets a public education too ... but in reality, the school you attend is determined by your zip code. There's absolutely no comparison between the education a child is going to receive in a public school situated in a wealthy neighborhood to one that's situated in a working class area. That's one of the main reasons why Americans have fallen behind several European nations in social mobility, I think.
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Old 11-17-2014, 02:21 PM
 
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Sounds like a good case of jealousy. Why are you so concerned about what other people choose to spend their money on?
Jealousy? Huh? Road, look, I'm a liberal ... actually more of a socialist because I'm left on economic issues, but pretty much libertarian on social ones.... that doesn't mean I'm jealous of anyone. Yes, I think we'd have a healthier society if we had a broader middle class, and I support measures that encourage a level playing field. No, I'm not shaking my fist at people living in McMansions. I'm too busy enjoying a nice life in a European capital to take much notice.
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Old 11-17-2014, 02:26 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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That's a nice area. That's probably where the Eurocrats are calling home, eh?
Probably. It's interesting to see what they are buying with my tax money
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