DOH!! Causes of Calif. drought natural, not man-made: NOAA (global warming, school, state)

[Toyman at Jewel Lake]

Funny that just a few weeks ago the AGW groupies were trying to say the snowstorm south of Buffalo was due to AWG.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake

Funny that just a few weeks ago the AGW groupies were trying to say the snowstorm south of Buffalo was due to AWG.

and it certainly could be part of warmer air...as warmer air is more likely to be moister air

the funny thing is all there extremists who say ''man-made'' think warmer means more deserts

[Toyman at Jewel Lake]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

and it certainly could be part of warmer air...as warmer air is more likely to be moister air

the funny thing is all there extremists who say ''man-made'' think warmer means more deserts

And the funnier thing is that AGW groupies claim that all weather is now climate change.

[Spatula City]

Therefore AGW is not real, poses no risk to anyone and people can go on doing whatever they want with no fear of any repercussions whatsoever.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by Spatula City

Therefore AGW is not real, poses no risk to anyone and people can go on doing whatever they want with no fear of any repercussions whatsoever.

man-made is not real....

climate change is real

we CAN'T do a thing about it....but we can adapt and be smarter on how we DEAL with the change

ie...its kinda stupid to build RIGHT ON the shore and in areas that are '''below''' sealevel

[sxrckr]

Originally Posted by Spatula City

Therefore AGW is not real, poses no risk to anyone and people can go on doing whatever they want with no fear of any repercussions whatsoever.

Celebrities and politicians should stop living in huge energy-hogging mansions and jet-setting about in private planes.

[Spatula City]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

man-made is not real....

climate change is real

we CAN'T do a thing about it....but we can adapt and be smarter on how we DEAL with the change

ie...its kinda stupid to build RIGHT ON the shore and in areas that are '''below''' sealevel

Aren't you the guy who said that all warming has no known cause?

[PullMyFinger]

I want to be on the AGW side now. December is projected to be slightly above normal temp for my state. First time that's happened in over 5 years. So now I'm a Global Warmer.

[Spatula City]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

meanwhile also

Australia's sponge effect caused global sea levels to drop, study says - NBC News

So what?

I find it really hard to take you people seriously when you seem to frame the debate as 'natural vs manmade'. Obviously, there are natural 'buffers' as well as natural weather patterns and natural climate drivers. The only people who are denying these are the ones AGW deniers have made up in their minds.

Even if California's drought isn't 100% caused by humans, it still doesn't mean AGW isn't real, it just means that maybe it isn't 100% to blame in this case.

I'm not sure how you can separate natural from manmade in the first place... if AGW is making the whole planet warmer, then it seems to me that the whole planet and all of its natural cycles are going to be affected in some way.

[PullMyFinger]

Originally Posted by Spatula City

So what?

I find it really hard to take you people seriously when you seem to frame the debate as 'natural vs manmade'. Obviously, there are natural 'buffers' as well as natural weather patterns and natural climate drivers. The only people who are denying these are the ones AGW deniers have made up in their minds.

Even if California's drought isn't 100% caused by humans, it still doesn't mean AGW isn't real, it just means that maybe it isn't 100% to blame in this case.

I'm not sure how you can separate natural from manmade in the first place... if AGW is making the whole planet warmer, then it seems to me that the whole planet and all of its natural cycles are going to be affected in some way.

That is if the THEORY is founded on fact and not the fiction that is continually pushed by this so called science. I believe the scientists think they are on to something here, but it's so far over their heads they cannot understand 10% of the data they are collecting. CO2 in the atmosphere causes warming is a theory and nothing more.

There has been many times the PPM of CO2 in the atmosphere during ice ages in the past. It's right in the ice core samples but they don't want to talk about that. I wonder why?