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My ilk ? which ilk would that be? I am a Libertarian / Conservative . Elizabeth Warren is a far left Democrat. The premise of this thread is just plain goofy. You guys can clamor all you want about how bad things are but you are not willing to accept the reality of how to fix it. You are either disingenuous or politically bi polar. Most people are not one issue voters and they understand you are never going to get 100%.
It does not matter to me what party you belong to.
I am taking the assumption based on the people attacking her that they are doing so because she is going after Wall Street Corruption.
Now prove me wrong by saying "Wall Street needs to be reined in, but we need to pick such and such instead because she is lying."
Any less obviously tells the tale where they actually support the collusion.
Do you Support People, Corporations and Banks standing on their Own Two Feet or Not is what it comes down to.
It does not matter to me what party you belong to.
I am taking the assumption based on the people attacking her that they are doing so because she is going after Wall Street Corruption.
Now prove me wrong by saying "Wall Street needs to be reined in, but we need to pick such and such instead because she is lying."
Any less obviously tells the tale where they actually support the collusion.
Do you Support People, Corporations and Banks standing on their Own Two Feet or Not is what it comes down to.
You are very naïve if you don't think that Warren is in the democrat party for a reason.
Bad assumption, like I said. I oppose her because she is a left wing democrat that is as full of sh*t as Obama proved to be. If you want to believe her campaign rhetoric that's your business, but she is no more going to "reign in" wall street than Obama was going to end all wars. When it comes to priorities , wall street is not at the top of my list and as I said I am not a 1 issue voter.
The op asked why Conservatives don't support Warren? The answer; She is a left wing ideologue, why would they? Conservatives are on the right, just for clarification.
You are very naïve if you don't think that Warren is in the democrat party for a reason.
Bad assumption, like I said. I oppose her because she is a left wing democrat that is as full of sh*t as Obama proved to be. If you want to believe her campaign rhetoric that's your business, but she is no more going to "reign in" wall street than Obama was going to end all wars. When it comes to priorities , wall street is not at the top of my list and as I said I am not a 1 issue voter.
So what you are basically saying is that your vote is based more on party than policies?
It does not matter to me if you are the Koch Brothers or George Soros if you have policies I agree with.
We hear so much these days about standing on your own two feet and at the same time hand over billions of dollars to the Bankers, Military Industrial Complex and Corporate Subsidies and Tax Breaks that it is pretty hard to take either party seriously.
Neither Party has anything to offer to the average American
All they have to offer is to their special interest donors and to help raise their stock dividends.
So what you are basically saying is that your vote is based more on party than policies?
It does not matter to me if you are the Koch Brothers or George Soros if you have policies I agree with.
We hear so much these days about standing on your own two feet and at the same time hand over billions of dollars to the Bankers, Military Industrial Complex and Corporate Subsidies and Tax Breaks that it is pretty hard to take either party seriously.
Neither Party has anything to offer to the average American
All they have to offer is to their special interest donors and to help raise their stock dividends.
Policies determine the party, if higher taxes, homosexual rights, global warming, feminist rights are a priority then vote democrat. If national defense, Military, lower taxes, property rights, 2nd amendment, and free market are your priorities vote Republican.
Republicans have been told that speaking against corporate monopolies is akin to socialism.
Just like they have been told that speaking out against Israel controlling US foreign policy is akin to supporting Islam.
They aren't a bright lot, OP.
Socialism is for the people where cost controls come into play.
What we have is corporate fascism where we are forced to prop up Corporations via the Barrel of the Gun all done by the wealthy elite. Obama Care is very far from socialism where we are forced to prop up private for profit insurance where CEO and Shareholders rather than citizens are the top concern. They want Americans to prop up their lucrative costs.
Labor Power has been dying (unions on decline)
Protester Freedoms have been dying ( Freedom Zones)
Lobbying Freedoms have increased
Basically Economic Freedoms are slowly opening for the Profit Class and Freedoms for everyone else has been diminishing.
It was not Joe Six Pack or the Common Protester that brought us to where we are today.
Policies determine the party, if higher taxes, homosexual rights, global warming, feminist rights are a priority then vote democrat. If national defense, Military, lower taxes, property rights, 2nd amendment, and free market are your priorities vote Republican.
So basically both parties are Bi-Partisan when it comes to Corporate and Banking Corruption that has a major impact in the markets on the people in this country is what it comes down to.
There is no "Market Prices" when Corporate and Banking Lobbyists control policy
When people speak of Market Wages and Prices in this country as if they are determined via free and fair competition, they need to be laughed at.
It does not matter to me what party you belong to.
I am taking the assumption based on the people attacking her that they are doing so because she is going after Wall Street Corruption.
So far it's been mostly just saying she will. Yep, she voted against the bloat and give aways in the trillion dollar budget unlike most (R)'s and I give her credit for that but so did many others.
"I have to laugh when people talk about someone like Elizabeth Warren as a far left radical, the progressive version of Ted Cruz or Jim DeMint. Cruz and DeMint want to shut down government at the drop of a hat, deport all undocumented immigrants, and abolish the minimum wage, and generally support a whole series of profoundly unpopular agenda items. As for Warren, I have heard or read a great many of her speeches, as well as her terrific autobiography, and I can't ever remember her advocating for something that was unpopular with the American people. Her economic policy prescriptions generally garner 70-80% when polled. Prosecuting the bankers who brought down the economy with their reckless and illegal bank fraud? Check. Breaking up the biggest banks? Check. Strong oversight of the big banks provided by agencies like the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? Check. Expanding Social Security benefits? Check. Raising the minimum wage? Reforming the student loan system and reducing student debt? Check. Making a big investment in roads and bridges and education? Check. All of those policies are strongly supported by the American people. Rather than being an extremist, Elizabeth Warren is right in line with most Americans on what she is advocating, certainly far more than beltway pundits bloviating about what responsible centrism is or is not, and certainly more so that conservatives who want to do the opposite of all the popular policies cited above."
My ilk ? which ilk would that be? I am a Libertarian / Conservative . Elizabeth Warren is a far left Democrat. The premise of this thread is just plain goofy. You guys can clamor all you want about how bad things are but you are not willing to accept the reality of how to fix it. You are either disingenuous or politically bi polar. Most people are not one issue voters and they understand you are never going to get 100%.
agree completely. I too, am a conservative/Libertarian or with Libertarian views on things. Other than, maybe be somewhat of an isolationist and I not really that, how could any one like us support her? What are some people even thinking?
"I have to laugh when people talk about someone like Elizabeth Warren as a far left radical, the progressive version of Ted Cruz or Jim DeMint. Cruz and DeMint want to shut down government at the drop of a hat, deport all undocumented immigrants, and abolish the minimum wage, and generally support a whole series of profoundly unpopular agenda items. As for Warren, I have heard or read a great many of her speeches, as well as her terrific autobiography, and I can't ever remember her advocating for something that was unpopular with the American people. Her economic policy prescriptions generally garner 70-80% when polled. Prosecuting the bankers who brought down the economy with their reckless and illegal bank fraud? Check. Breaking up the biggest banks? Check. Strong oversight of the big banks provided by agencies like the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? Check. Expanding Social Security benefits? Check. Raising the minimum wage? Reforming the student loan system and reducing student debt? Check. Making a big investment in roads and bridges and education? Check. All of those policies are strongly supported by the American people. Rather than being an extremist, Elizabeth Warren is right in line with most Americans on what she is advocating, certainly far more than beltway pundits bloviating about what responsible centrism is or is not, and certainly more so that conservatives who want to do the opposite of all the popular policies cited above."
Obama said he was for all of that. It's easy to claim to be for something. Why should people really think she is different?
I would like to be able to support her but she started off poorly. I do have a problem with the "you didn't build that" statements. I do have a problem with someone making $350,000 to teach a class complaining about the cost of an education.
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