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Old 12-26-2014, 09:14 PM
 
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What exactly are you doing to change that?

By Using Freedom of Speech via this and many other message boards to point to people that the policies being implemented are not being done with their best interests in mind but for the special interests that are buying politicians.

If enough people come to terms with how things work versus how we are told they work, there is bound to be people that group together that will challenge this status quo.

The status quo we have is against everything this country stood for at its founding.

It is every citizens responsibility to change this at the government level.
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Old 12-26-2014, 10:28 PM
 
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Suit yourself, you are basically reconciled to languish in obscurity. I choose to actually make a difference.
You are reconciled to keep the status quo.
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Old 12-26-2014, 10:28 PM
 
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Well we have seen what the Corporate Lobbyists had in mind that donate to both parties where their only concern is Executive Bonuses and Stock Dividends using cheap labor in countries that have no Labor Rights, No Environmental Concerns, and no Allegiance to this country.

We should disband the military using their logic since No One should be on the hook since we are all Globalists now.

This is the New World Order Globalist Nightmare that Bush was talking about

A world not ruled by one single government, but a world ruled by Multinational Corporations and Banks that have enough money to rule national governments to further their agenda but not responsible for their policies nor have any skin in the game.

Taxes are paid for by consumers and workers
Fines are paid for by consumers and workers
Lobbying is paid for by consumers and workers

Bonuses, Compensation Packages and Stock Dividends continue to climb while prices on good and services continue to climb and wages continue to deflate.

Corporate and Banking Lobbyists have no skin in the game nor personal consequences and want everyone else to pay for it.

They need to be BOOTED out of our government!

Ross Perot was Right.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqvYLNaMZCo
blablablabla........so go find your Republican precinct and become a delegate and start actually doing something instead of yapping. Perot likes to hear himself talk and was willing to spend millions of his own money to see that Bush 41 did not become Bush 42 over a personal vendetta. Perot is responsible for Bill Clinton being elected he knew full he was never going to be elected. I don't know how old you are but at some point your idealism will hopefully give way to realism and you will develop an understanding of how you can actually be part of the solution instead of barking about the new world order.
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Old 12-26-2014, 10:30 PM
 
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As do I. I support Occupy's core cause against Wall Street institutions getting bailouts because they are "too big to fail," which is a stance that is also held by the Tea Party. They don't have to agree on everything to work together on the things they do agree on.

This is an issue that most Americans can also agree on, and probably the one issue where both sides could most easily come together. I would truly love to see this happen, but first both sides would have to let the partisan politics go and fight together for their common goal. If this were to happen, I think it could be a turning point in the ridiculous "us" versus "them" team politics that keeps us from doing anything other that fight among ourselves. Which is exactly what Wall Street wants to see continue.
For the most part the two major parties only care about holding on to power, not what is best for the country.

There are a few exceptions in the two parties.
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Old 12-26-2014, 10:32 PM
 
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You are reconciled to keep the status quo.
Nonsense... I just understand how to actually make a difference, like we did in 1994.
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Old 12-26-2014, 10:36 PM
 
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Nonsense... I just understand how to actually make a difference, like we did in 1994.
The contract was discarded as soon as the GOP got power again and Newt was jettisoned to obscurity.
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Old 12-26-2014, 10:59 PM
 
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blablablabla........so go find your Republican precinct and become a delegate and start actually doing something instead of yapping. Perot likes to hear himself talk and was willing to spend millions of his own money to see that Bush 41 did not become Bush 42 over a personal vendetta. Perot is responsible for Bill Clinton being elected he knew full he was never going to be elected. I don't know how old you are but at some point your idealism will hopefully give way to realism and you will develop an understanding of how you can actually be part of the solution instead of barking about the new world order.
It seems it is so typical for people of your ilk to attack the person, attack the people he supports, attack the moral and ethics involved, and so forth, BUT

Never actually discuss the issues involved that are brought up and explain the mechanics involved from their own perspective as a counter argument.

The Open Topic of this thread is about Warren and her stance on Big Banking and Washington in BED Together, and I have not seen one person that is against her, offering another candidate as an alternative.

WHY?

Because there are a lot of people that SUPPORT Fascism and not Free Market Capitalism if they profit from it.

We have seen the same thing in the Soviet Union and other Countries where Big Business and Government are in bed together.

It can be called many different names but the DAM result is always the same.

We speak of Freedom and Independence in this nation as a cornerstone of our principles but have a freaking hard time of practicing it based on Fascist Police, Corporate and Banking Policies.
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Old 12-26-2014, 11:02 PM
 
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The contract was discarded as soon as the GOP got power again and Newt was jettisoned to obscurity.
Wrong... the GOP pulled a left wing Clinton to the center to the point that he co-opted and took credit for their ideas. Significant legislation was passed because of the Contract. The point is The Republicans took over the house for the first time in 40 years, unseated a sitting speaker for only the second time in history. Again either the democrat or republican party is going to be in control PERIOD!! If you don't like the status quo ... THE ONLY WAY you are going to change it, is by getting involved in one of them.
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Old 12-26-2014, 11:06 PM
 
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Wrong... the GOP pulled a left wing Clinton to the center to the point that he co-opted and took credit for their ideas. Significant legislation was passed because of the Contract. The point is The Republicans took over the house for the first time in 40 years, unseated a sitting speaker for only the second time in history. Again either the democrat or republican party is going to be in control PERIOD!! If you don't like the status quo ... THE ONLY WAY you are going to change it, is by getting involved in one of them.
Then let it be noted that people like you are the enemy of this country.

One step at a time.

More people are waking up that the Left / Right Status Quo is a Disease on this country.
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Old 12-26-2014, 11:18 PM
 
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It seems it is so typical for people of your ilk to attack the person, attack the people he supports, attack the moral and ethics involved, and so forth, BUT

Never actually discuss the issues involved that are brought up and explain the mechanics involved from their own perspective as a counter argument.

The Open Topic of this thread is about Warren and her stance on Big Banking and Washington in BED Together, and I have not seen one person that is against her, offering another candidate as an alternative.

WHY?

Because there are a lot of people that SUPPORT Fascism and not Free Market Capitalism if they profit from it.

We have seen the same thing in the Soviet Union and other Countries where Big Business and Government are in bed together.

It can be called many different names but the DAM result is always the same.

We speak of Freedom and Independence in this nation as a cornerstone of our principles but have a freaking hard time of practicing it based on Fascist Police, Corporate and Banking Policies.
My ilk ? which ilk would that be? I am a Libertarian / Conservative . Elizabeth Warren is a far left Democrat. The premise of this thread is just plain goofy. You guys can clamor all you want about how bad things are but you are not willing to accept the reality of how to fix it. You are either disingenuous or politically bi polar. Most people are not one issue voters and they understand you are never going to get 100%.
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