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No, it was the TANF program. You have about 80+ other programs that don't kick you off.
Partially because of how bad the situation has gotten since 2008 and how many people actually need welfare to survive because jobs created are not as good as the jobs lost and yet prices going up further.
You are wrong on this. It is SS that is easier to acquire. SS is welfare, SSDI is Social Security Disability Income in which the worker pays for and can lose if they stop working for X amount of years. It is hard to qualify for SSDI unless you have a verifiable terminal condition, was a recent worker. I've seen first hand how difficult it is for a working disable, very ill person to qualify for SSDI. Not easy in the slightest and for most can take years to acquire.
You are mistaken. SS is SOCIAL SECURITY which workers pay into over their working lives.
You mean SSI, which is a subsidy of sorts for the very-low income population on SS.
Yes, it is a strengthening of social security and a weakening of the welfare system. Lazy non working types have a reason to be upset.
Are you also referring to my cousin who has Terminal liver disease from hepatitus,which she got while working as a nurse??
Some of you people need to be thrown under a bus.......
The definition should be "any" work not just can't perform their previous work. A 50-yr old should not be granted benefits because they cannot dig ditches if they can still stock shelves at Wal-Mart.
What if my job were to repair printed circuit boards in computers and other gadgets. What if I needed to watch my work through a magnifying glass, and work with steady hands. Then I got a disability which caused my hands to start shaking. Now I have to dig ditches or stock shelves? Shouldn't I have been able to buy disability insurance, so if that ever happened, I wouldn't have to do cheap work? But isn't such disability insurance exactly what SSDI is supposed to be? Why should the person who can no longer repair printed circuit boards have to dig ditches or stock shelves, if he paid for SSDI during 40 years of repairing printed circuit boards? If he earned $40 per hour, he now has to earn $9 per hour, because of his disability? Shouldn't he have been able to buy disability insurance that would pay him 33%, which would be $13.33 per hour? Isn't that what SSDI is supposed to be? Isn't that what he paid for during those 40 years of earning $40 per hour?
"Social Security" is neither security nor workable.
It has a 100% chance of failure. The concept itself is unintelligent and not fixable.
That's like saying democracy has a 100% chance of failure. So what? SS has been working fine for decades, and will continue to work fine for more decades.
Our society is going to change drastically, from almost everything being automated, with no further need for workers. We have a lot more to worry about for the future than SS. Meanwhile, it's not that big a problem.
Are the people on this forum short a brick or two? SSDI is Social Security Disability Insurance paid for by your FICA taxes. SSI is Supplemental Security Income is Welfare paid for by the state and the federal government. And I work for a living.
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Originally Posted by jmking
You are wrong on this. It is SS that is easier to acquire. SS is welfare, SSDI is Social Security Disability Income in which the worker pays for and can lose if they stop working for X amount of years. It is hard to qualify for SSDI unless you have a verifiable terminal condition, was a recent worker. I've seen first hand how difficult it is for a working disable, very ill person to qualify for SSDI. Not easy in the slightest and for most can take years to acquire.
It has been pointed out to you by several posters that you are not well informed about SS, SSDI and SSI. For that matter I don't think you realize that those on SS also PAY for Medicare. Where do you get the notion that one can collect SSDI if they have a terminal condition?
I will be 67 soon and have been working and paying into social security over 50 years now. While i could collect now i am opting not to in order to get more later.
Three years ago i added up the total amount paid into ss on my behalf and dotaled what i would have if i had only deposited the money in a simple passbook account paying the average interest rate over the years. If i had done that today i would have over $710,000 in my account.
When i do start to collect is that welfare?
How about back tracking and reading the posts of the poster I responded to who claimed SS is welfare. It would help you make an informed post.
That's like saying democracy has a 100% chance of failure. So what? SS has been working fine for decades, and will continue to work fine for more decades.
Our society is going to change drastically, from almost everything being automated, with no further need for workers. We have a lot more to worry about for the future than SS. Meanwhile, it's not that big a problem.
Agree however, Automation does not work in a vacuum. Automation has always been here and will continue to exist. Innovation will keep us busy.
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